QUESTION: Is it true that your magic consultants would only give you what you needed for the role, so you did not come away from this experience as an accomplished magician?
CHRISTIAN BALE: No. I thought I would. But I'd be the crappiest party entertainer you could ever believe. I can start a few tricks and I can end a few, but I can't take any right through at all. But I like very much that they did that because a whole part of the movie is the necessity of mystery. And with magic, that's really been maintained. Actually, I asked them what did they think about the magicians who exposed everything. And they said they liked it. Because what it meant is that anybody who was just imitating other people, their careers were finished. But, they said the true magicians are the ones who create their own tricks. So, it separates the men from the boys with it. But, yeah, that having been said, they recognized that. There's a line that my character has in the movie where he says something like, 'The mystery is everything. Once you tell people how it's done, you mean nothing to them any longer.' And it's absolutely true. The tricks which I did learn how they were done -- for instance, the big mechanical set-ups - it was so bloody annoying to find out how they were done, and annoying because you weren't able to work it out, because they tend to end up being incredibly simple. But the ones that I really loved - and which Ricky Jay and Michael Weber were fantastic at -- they were our advisors -- is the sleight-of-hand because you know the commitment that that takes. You know the hours, I mean years, really, of practice that that takes to do it just flawlessly. With those tricks, they're actually even more impressive when you know how they're done, because they did teach me a few of those. And it's just stunning the dexterity that it requires. But I like that very much. I would really try to trick them into telling things, but they ain't fools, you know.QUESTION: Nolans films have that great thematic through-line of perception and identity. Is that one of the many reasons why you enjoy working with him as a storyteller?
CHRISTIAN BALE: Well, just as a storyteller, he finds so many interesting angles to things. I dont know if youve read the book of The Prestige, but this is considerably different. Personally, I just love what hes done with it. I love how he saw his material, but heres how to really create a twist in it and the turns and, to me, more intrigue in it. Hes such a sharp director. He really has thought every little thing through. I really love that when youre working with somebody like that, because I tend to be the same. I analyze it and try to pick apart the problems and, well, maybe on the tenth viewing, someones going to notice this and is that a problem here? And hes really great at that, but has this incredible ability, which I dont have, to be able to see things filmically, to understand that certain things dont actually, matter. Logically and in life, they can matter; it is very true and very surprising at times. In movies, there are times when it just doesnt matter. It doesnt come up at all. But, you know, this whole thing is obviously to do with perception and the necessity of mystery, especially with my character, the necessity of mystery, not only for his livelihood, but also for his life itself.
QUESTION: Were you into little magic tricks when you were a kid?
CHRISTIAN BALE: No more than anybody else. I bought a little magic box, was excited about it for a night, and then, that was it. Done. I never knew where it when to. What I did have, though: one of my grandfathers was a member of the magic circle in London. And I never got to see him perform. But, he would, on occasion, when I was small, drag down a chest from the attic, which had a lot of his old props and tricks in it, most of which were very aged by that time and not really working properly. But he would show me how he did certain things. So, it was nice to kind of rekindle memories of that in doing The Prestige.QUESTION: Is it a balancing act to bringing heart and humanity to a character who is searching for his humanity?
CHRISTIAN BALE: To me, its just like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle. Is that necessary for me to do for a movie to work? You dont want to ruin the whole effect of the movie just because Im insisting on whether I do not need to bring that, or I do need to bring it. You do have to step back on occasion and of the scene, ask the director, Okay. Look. Is this going to ruin the rhythm, ruin what youre going for here if I do maintain it? But I feel like you cant help but bring certain things to characters that maybe you didnt intend to. That also goes down to which takes are chosen. You can do so many different takes and do very different things in them. And you dont know which one is going to end up being used for the movie. But I also dont object to having a character who does not have to be likeable in the slightest. I dont feel like thats a necessity in the slightest for making successful movie with whatever you deem to be successful in your own head.QUESTION: Do you see a similarity between your character and what he does as a magician and what seems to be almost like an alchemy that is acting?
CHRISTIAN BALE: I think that the mystery is something which really should be maintained with both. I think that its also boring as hell to hear an actor talking about how he acts. I dont really care. Do you? I mean, just does it work or not? I dont care if he turns up drunk on the set and has not even read the script. If he does the job, then thats fantastic. Or if he has to go live in a sort of the 1700s for a few months to understand what its like to walk out the house for one scene, great, as well. Whatever you need to do. Different people have different abilities. Some people can turn it on like that (snap); other people need or enjoy a great amount of preparation beforehand. its quite an eccentric job, and you get to be able to do those things without people sticking you in an asylum or whatever. So, I say take full advantage of that. But, I think that mystery is a wonderful thing, not only for magic, but for movies as well. I think it would be nice if we clung onto the mystery as much as many magicians do. My personal feeling is I dont like all of these DVD extras and things that you get nowadays. I feel like people -- if they want to know -- they should have to search it out instead of having it being handed to them on a plate. I think it should be a smaller world of people who actually know the way things are done because there are very few things in life where youre actually more impressed by them once you discover the workings behind it.QUESTION: Does that mean you dont do commentary on DVDs?
CHRISTIAN BALE: No. Ive never done anything like that. No.QUESTION: They havent asked you, or you said no?
CHRISTIAN BALE: Ive been asked, and Im just not into doing that. I dont really want to. I dont see why. The movie is what I was aiming for, and thats it. I dont want to do any more than that.QUESTION: One of the fascinating things to me about Chris Nolan is the challenge he gives to the audience of Youve got to stick with this because Im jumping all around in time; you also have characters who may not be what we think they are.
CHRISTIAN BALE: Yeah. Its a magic trick in and of itself, the movie.
QUESTION: But how about when youre doing it? Do you have to have some kind of log to say, Okay. Here we are today.
CHRISTIAN BALE: Absolutely. I sat down with Chris beforehand, and I created a chart. And it was really just about clarity before we started filming. So, once we did do it, we werent having to sit there discussing certain details which were essential. Also, that allowed for us to be able to plant little clues which would be absolutely irrelevant to anybody watching the first time, but could be very enjoyable for anybody watching the movie a second time. So, yeah, for me, all preparation is like that. Its almost like you create a chart; you get it very clear in your head; and then you just tear all that up and throw it away and hopefully, youre able just to do it without thinking about it so much. But, yeah, with this one certainly we needed to get a certain number of answers to get some clarity at least between Chris and myself, which was not needed for the audience to be clear about. But just, we both like the notion that on second and third viewings, people could see -- yeah -- it was there. You didnt realize it was there on the first viewing, but everything was right there to be worked out.
QUESTION: Could you personally relate to Borden because his life is pretty much his work?
CHRISTIAN BALE: Well, you know, my work becomes my life, but for shorter terms -- shorter periods of time than it is with Borden. I do like, and I cant help but just respect immensely, people who have that level of obsession and enjoy that level of commitment. I just love that sense of purpose that you get. Mine, obviously, are much shorter terms of obsession. With Borden, it is a lifelong goal for one particular thing, which is an obsession that can truly send you mad. But I can see and admire him for that. I think I do it to a probably less extreme degree.
QUESTION: Christian you started your work on screen fairly early. Who inspired you to reach for the stars or something or be something bigger than maybe what was going on in the moment. Was it something someone told you?
CHRISTIAN BALE: There was never any notion of it, being something bigger. In fact, for me, it was about going smaller and looking at just real little details and being very up close in your viewing of things. And its the same way if youve lost a sense of purpose sometimes in life or feeling numb for periods of life or whatever, its very small things that help you to get back up on your feet. Its not big grandiose notions. It was just discovered early on that I really liked this dissection of other characters. I like the empathy of putting yourself in other peoples shoes and just enjoyed that. I found it interesting in all walks of life, not just with acting, but just in anything in trying to understand the situation better. Putting yourself in somebody elses shoes just helps you to get that other point of view and become that more informed about anything. And on top of that, I did have an unconventional upbringing in that things which other people thought to be a pie in the sky dreams, in my household, was felt to be absolutely realistic and why not go for it. Why settle for something? Youre better to fail really trying for something that you feel passionately about than to settle for something that you could give or take?
QUESTION: Youre doing a western with James Mangold?
CHRISTIAN BALE: Yeah. Im just starting that in a few days. Yeah.
QUESTION: What project is that, and who do you play?
CHRISTIAN BALE: Its called Three Ten to Humor, and its based on an Elmore Leonard short story. Like you said, its a remake, but with many changes, and in my opinion, greatly improved.
QUESTION: Were you much of a horseman before?
CHRISTIAN BALE: Ive actually been run over by a horse and had one tread on me, and Ive been thrown off of them and enjoyed every second of it. So, the point is Im not really a horseman, but Im not really scared of them. I enjoy it. I like the best.Tagged in Christian Bale