need some advice please ladies ...

[Xinebessa]

first post on this forum hehe.. after a bit of advice. Ill set the scene... Im 20, just started going out with a girl of age 17... although ive only been seeing her a few weeks i get the feeling that this could be the one etc etc etc (wont bore you with the gooey stuff hehe). Anyway really wanting to please her. Although having not asked her I'm 99.9% sure shes a virgin.. anyway the other night we were back at mine, usual hugging and kissing etc on the bed.. Im doing my thing and she undoes her trousers and puts my hand down there.. of course no objections from me i start playing.. after about 20mins or so i slowly start to slip my finger inside and she grabs my hand and says no.. so I try not to let it suprise me and just carry on without penetration of any kind... my issue is with the other 2 girls ive been with ive never been able to make them orgasm without getting my finger or my tounge inside (I find it easy to do it orally and would love to get my tounge in there).. I was quite shocked as I never really stopped to think that a finger being inserted would be such a big deal to a woman if she was happy to let you "down there" anyway.. Just wondering if any females out there could shed some light on this for me? I'm not fussed at all at this stage about sex or getting anything in return sexually from her (shes been all over me above the waist but never ventured below yet). Basically I want to give her an orgasm, but with current limitations being imposed i dont think i can... Would you think if I was to go down on her that me trying to get my tongue inside would be a different situation to the finger or is it the whole "penetration" thing ? Or would this maybe be too much for her if shes new to all this. Also a bit of mutual "playing" would be appriciated.. Whats the best way to "suggest this"? is undoing my flies hint enough as she did to me? I dont want to come over too strong as for all I know this could well be the first time shes even got the chance to "play" with a blokes tackle. Just talk to her you'll prolly all say.. but not an option. I suck at asking anything like this hehe... Anyway sorry for long post.. any advice / inside info would be appriciated.

[SAHMOM69]

3 words...RUB HER CLIT.

[foolsgold]

once again heres a great site for oral and yes id say "ask her" as being the best way to find out what she is willing to do and not do.

http://www.sexuality.org/l/incoming/ghaos.html

[Xinebessa]

oo thats for the link.. tis some good info there