On the highway to hell (socialism)!

[Fred75]

(I'm going to rant incoherently here!)

Well, that's it!
I see no way for America NOT to become a social state short of killing all the politicians.

McCain has endorsed a social state mortgage system for the country.
& Society now hates the rich.
I suggest all Americans take their money out of the stock market and sock it under the mattress and become blood sucking socialists!

See, our downfall started with social security!
With SS set to fail in a few years and the governments stepping in to bail everyone out..... well... no use saving for retirement because the governemtn will bail you out.
Friends.... dont save your money...all will be taken care of for you!

Had McCain said NO to the bailout I would have said America has a chance of still staying America!

But he wanted this bailout and with that has set the tone for the SS bailout on the way!
Well... that's it.... that's the only gutless way to solve our mess!
Become a total social state!

[Lena]

Moi is putting her poster of Che Guevara in the window !!!

[NoLies]

Well, that's it!
I see no way for America NOT to become a social state short of killing all the politicians.

McCain has endorsed a social state mortgage system for the country.
& Society now hates the rich.
I suggest all Americans take their money out of the stock market and sock it under the mattress and become blood sucking socialists!

Well lets be honest here, the rich have already withdrawn their cash, and stuffed it under the bed, because thanks the to the greedy blood sucking Yanky Zionist Capitalist Bankers, no body dare leave their cash in the Banks, or the stock market, have yopu slept through the last two weeks or what?

The greedy b-stards have just about bankrupt the world deliberately to screw more cash out every one.

See, our downfall started with social security!

No your wrong, the American downfall started when the Zionists Capitalists were allowed to set up and control the Federal Reserve, and put every American citizen permanently in debt.

Friends.... dont save your money...all will be taken care of for you
Had McCain said NO to the bailout I would have said America has a chance of still staying America!

Of course you would, thats because you, want to sponge off every working American.

You want the American people to save your sorry thieving arse, you want all working Americans to pay for the money you and your thieving vagabond Zionist buddy's have syphoned out of the banks and stashed somewhere safe,, wile you extort even more money out of working people, if there's one thing i cant stand its a winging parasite.

Well... that's it.... that's the only gutless way to solve our mess!
Become a total social state!

You created the S***, you wallow in it.

Shalom my fine Zionist Capitalist friend.

[Ivan Diederhoff]

[b](I'm going to rant incoherently here!)

Yeah, there's something new and different! In case you missed it, my post is ALL SARCASM! Fred, buddy, I know I'm showing at a bad time for you, and I know you now understand truth and reality are bitter pills to swallow. Have you seen the bumper stickers available that say "I Left the Republican Party, because the Republican Party left me!" Maybe now's a good time to get a few to put on your bumper of the what, Benz? BMW? I really don't mean to kick you when you're down, but I told you so! The repubs have betrayed you, your values and belief structure. They nominated a pair of incompetents basically from 1968 onwards!

[Babykitten]

[Babykitten]

[Fred75]

(I'm going to rant incoherently here!)

Yeah, there's something new and different! In case you missed it, my post is ALL SARCASM! Fred, buddy, I know I'm showing at a bad time for you, and I know you now understand truth and reality are bitter pills to swallow. Have you seen the bumper stickers available that say "I Left the Republican Party, because the Republican Party left me!" Maybe now's a good time to get a few to put on your bumper of the what, Benz? BMW? I really don't mean to kick you when you're down, but I told you so! The repubs have betrayed you, your values and belief structure. They nominated a pair of incompetents basically from 1968 onwards!

No arguing that bumper sticker!
So, do I go Libertarian?

[azraelle]

Any damn fool can figure out why the stock market is tanking--the actual sellers (not their agents on the stock floor) rightly or wrongly perceive their money will disappear with Obama as president--therefore, every time he picks up another percentage point lead, they panic and tell their agents to sell SELL SELL! And the market takes another nose dive. Since McCain put his foot in his mouth about bailing out the people with bad mortgages, if anything it now is worse, because they can't see any practical difference between either candidate with respect to their money.

[Fred75]

Any damn fool can figure out why the stock market is tanking--the actual sellers (not their agents on the stock floor) rightly or wrongly perceive their money will disappear with Obama as president--therefore, every time he picks up another percentage point lead, they panic and tell their agents to sell SELL SELL! And the market takes another nose dive. Since McCain put his foot in his mouth about bailing out the people with bad mortgages, if anything it now is worse, because they can't see any practical difference between either candidate with respect to their money.

Can't argue to much there. You are right. One is an out n out communist and the other is closet communist.
We now have a FAR Left and Left political choice!

[Ivan Diederhoff]

(I'm going to rant incoherently here!)

Yeah, there's something new and different! In case you missed it, my post is ALL SARCASM! Fred, buddy, I know I'm showing at a bad time for you, and I know you now understand truth and reality are bitter pills to swallow. Have you seen the bumper stickers available that say "I Left the Republican Party, because the Republican Party left me!" Maybe now's a good time to get a few to put on your bumper of the what, Benz? BMW? I really don't mean to kick you when you're down, but I told you so! The repubs have betrayed you, your values and belief structure. They nominated a pair of incompetents basically from 1968 onwards!

No arguing that bumper sticker!
So, do I go Libertarian?

I don't know, Fred. I know our views on what America should be are closer than we'd think possible, but we differ on which road to take to get there. Both of these guys need to shift their priorities to developing a real plan to stop the bleeding. Any way we go on that, taxes are going to go up. Last night, Bill Maher had David Welker(?), the comptroller for the GAO, and this guy was raving mad about the way the unfinanced spending has been going, since about 2002, I think that's what he said. There are a lot of sources where cute can be made to save a LOT of money, but the campaign is still bogged down in smearing each other. He made sense, but had to maintain a sense of neutrality as far as lib or conserv goes. He wasn't trying to play favorites, just stating whoever ends up in the White House, better do something really fast.

At this point, I think that is exactly what is foremost on the candidates minds. Stopping the damn from crumbling. Is it just me, or both Barack, and Senator McCain look exhausted and worried? Rightfully, they should be. This is some serious S***.

[Big Ben]

David Walker, former Comptroller General of the US, has been going around the country saying America must fix its Medicaire program and that it is the biggest long-term, structural problem the country has. It is so serious that it will make the current economic situation seem minor by comparison.

In the last debate, the moderate begged the candidates to talk about it, saying it ranked with oil and healthcare as a problem.

McCain said he would address it. obama was given two chances and passed both times. obama just can't say no to spending.

[Fred75]

At this point, I think that is exactly what is foremost on the candidates minds. Stopping the damn from crumbling. Is it just me, or both Barack, and Senator McCain look exhausted and worried? Rightfully, they should be. This is some serious S***.

It's like they see 911 before the election. Something any rational man would have passed on had they known the future.
So I think they may both have a feeling that winning may mean you end up the (in history) loser. Just like Georges career. Only no one had a clue what was going to happen.

[Ivan Diederhoff]

I look back on news broadcasts, and articles in US NEWs, Newsweek, WSJ, and internet news sources. Ben, to be honest, there is plenty of blame to go around on both sides of the fence. I know the war is sore spot, but there is $10 billion a month gone, just into the war. Companies like Halliburton are charging $100 per load of laundry to the soldiers, and they have gone so far as to address commanding officers to tell their troops, NOT to wash their own laundry in fresh water rivers! Meal service is outsourced to Haliburton, and often times, our troops have to wait for hours to get a meal, if they get one at all, because only so much food is prepared. In the army of old, the mess was always open, and hot food (nasty according to servicemen I've talked to) was at least always available. We could cut our military budget in half, and STILL have the largest expenditure for military than anyone else. Defense contractor parasites need to be cut out. The war needs to come to an end. Wall Street and banking needs strict regulation. Medicare and Social Security? I need to think on that some more. I read a lot on both sides, I see the points on both sides, just haven't made my call yet. My instincts are telling me privatizing Social security is bad. Especially in light of recent developments on wall street. There are a lot of cuts we can make. It has to start soon.

[Fred75]

(I'm going to rant incoherently here!)

Yeah, there's something new and different! In case you missed it, my post is ALL SARCASM! Fred, buddy, I know I'm showing at a bad time for you, and I know you now understand truth and reality are bitter pills to swallow. Have you seen the bumper stickers available that say "I Left the Republican Party, because the Republican Party left me!" Maybe now's a good time to get a few to put on your bumper of the what, Benz? BMW? I really don't mean to kick you when you're down, but I told you so! The repubs have betrayed you, your values and belief structure. They nominated a pair of incompetents basically from 1968 onwards!

No arguing that bumper sticker!
So, do I go Libertarian?

I don't know, Fred. I know our views on what America should be are closer than we'd think possible, but we differ on which road to take to get there. Both of these guys need to shift their priorities to developing a real plan to stop the bleeding. Any way we go on that, taxes are going to go up. Last night, Bill Maher had David Welker(?), the comptroller for the GAO, and this guy was raving mad about the way the unfinanced spending has been going, since about 2002, I think that's what he said. There are a lot of sources where cute can be made to save a LOT of money, but the campaign is still bogged down in smearing each other. He made sense, but had to maintain a sense of neutrality as far as lib or conserv goes. He wasn't trying to play favorites, just stating whoever ends up in the White House, better do something really fast.

At this point, I think that is exactly what is foremost on the candidates minds. Stopping the damn from crumbling. Is it just me, or both Barack, and Senator McCain look exhausted and worried? Rightfully, they should be. This is some serious S***.

I don't Like Maher.
I just read his Wiki bio and find it interesting he's pro gay but against the people poisoning it's self.
So, I guess that makes him a fool of a Liberal for not understanding shoving your C*** up an arse spreads poison too!
I guess that's why I may have to stay a conservative Republican... I cant justify hypocritical social logic.

[Ivan Diederhoff]

(I'm going to rant incoherently here!)

Yeah, there's something new and different! In case you missed it, my post is ALL SARCASM! Fred, buddy, I know I'm showing at a bad time for you, and I know you now understand truth and reality are bitter pills to swallow. Have you seen the bumper stickers available that say "I Left the Republican Party, because the Republican Party left me!" Maybe now's a good time to get a few to put on your bumper of the what, Benz? BMW? I really don't mean to kick you when you're down, but I told you so! The repubs have betrayed you, your values and belief structure. They nominated a pair of incompetents basically from 1968 onwards!

No arguing that bumper sticker!
So, do I go Libertarian?

I don't know, Fred. I know our views on what America should be are closer than we'd think possible, but we differ on which road to take to get there. Both of these guys need to shift their priorities to developing a real plan to stop the bleeding. Any way we go on that, taxes are going to go up. Last night, Bill Maher had David Welker(?), the comptroller for the GAO, and this guy was raving mad about the way the unfinanced spending has been going, since about 2002, I think that's what he said. There are a lot of sources where cute can be made to save a LOT of money, but the campaign is still bogged down in smearing each other. He made sense, but had to maintain a sense of neutrality as far as lib or conserv goes. He wasn't trying to play favorites, just stating whoever ends up in the White House, better do something really fast.

At this point, I think that is exactly what is foremost on the candidates minds. Stopping the damn from crumbling. Is it just me, or both Barack, and Senator McCain look exhausted and worried? Rightfully, they should be. This is some serious S***.

I don't Like Maher.
I just read his Wiki bio and find it interesting he's pro gay but against the people poisoning it's self.
So, I guess that makes him a fool of a Liberal for not understanding shoving your C*** up an arse spreads poison too!
I guess that's why I may have to stay a conservative Republican... I cant justify hypocritical social logic.

I only brought Maher up as he had David Walker as guest. Walker was trying to stay neutral politically, not going to Obama or McCain. Just stating what needed to be done, like yesterday, to stop the disaster we are in. Maher's sense of humor appeals to me, so much cynicism and sarcasm. Much like Dennis Miller. Both are intelligent, and just bite with their jokes.