Fred75 wrote:The Colonel wrote:karrin wrote:The Colonel wrote:karrin wrote:The Colonel wrote:karrin wrote:The Colonel wrote:karrin wrote:swee wrote:I interpreted how it is nigh impossible for people to adopt, even when meeting perfect standards and yet any old birth 'parent' can breed and keep their child. Reading it back I am unsure whether the post means it is easier or more difficult for gays to adopt. Either way, there are more stringent guidelines for non-birth parents than breeders.
I know the adoption criteria changes from area to area.. and it is very stringent. It depends on what borough you are in.. if its a Labour run ward its slightly easier to adopt if you are gay
It is NOT easier for gays to adopt. I am a magistrate and I make decisions with my fellow magistrates about the welfare of children.
They are NOT given an easier ability to adopt. EVERY person must show suitability. If not, regardless of whether they are gay, straight or bisexual - they are REFUSED.
Many checks are made - e.g. criminal records checks, whether they have jobs (can support themselves), whether they have a disability which may hinder their care for a child or require additional support, their character etc.
It is NOT easier. Anyone who thinks so is ignorant. Labour run councils have nothing to do with gays adopting. Under the Adoption and Children Act (2002) is the the LAW that EVERYONE regardless of sexual orientation, provided they meet the set criteria for safety etc are to be granted permission to adopt and foster. No council can violate this law or put their "spin" on it.
To make gay adoption/fostering EASIER or HARDER than for someone of a different sexual orientation is ILLEGAL.
It is in Newham, and I know personally.. I have gone through the adoption process, and Robin Wales ( was the MP for Newham now Mayor) himself made it a personal crusade to include more gay couples in the adoption process. I didnt say it was easy I said it was slightly easier.
Encouraging adoption among gay couples does not make it easier.
It makes them aware of their legal rights and the fact they needn't fear coming forward.
Making access easier - yes. Not adoption/fostering itself.
In the same way the disabled are given greater access (DDA, 1995, SENDA, 2000), but are not favoured because of who they are.
By making it has made it easier in Newham...take it from one who knows
Yes, take it from one who knows - a magistrate.
I have already explained that what you are suggesting is illegal.
Improved access is what you are referring to. Nothing more.
This is not about you proving yourself to be right, though Lord knows this is an affiction you seem to possess. This is about how, after 3 years of the adoption experience, we found things
thats all... Not me being a "KnoW- it- all"
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You can't experience it.![]()
It's illegal![]()
If you still insist this has happened, tell me where, with all the details, and I'll pass it on to the Home Office.
The adoption of children is a serious matter in which no-one is favoured for any reason, not race, disability or sexual orientation. If you are claiming this is not the case the Home Office must investigate and criminal prosecutions will be brought against those responsible.
So which is it?
Someone explain to me where the Colonel talks about the rights of a child to have a father and mother and where he doesn't talk about the rights of homosexuals to trump the child's rights?
I read the Colonels remarks and all I see is THE RIGHT OF THE ADOPTERS... NOT THE ADOPTED!
Who agrees with me?
Then you must be blind.
I have said what is important is that the best homes are found for the kids.
Those homes are, and can, be found among people of different races, sexualities and those with disabilities. The more people there are, the more diverse they are, the greater the chance of finding suitable people.
Yet again - you show very dim lights.















