Ivan Diederhoff FemaleFirst Grand Master (1000+ Posts)
Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 1963 Location: Breaking Fred75's Waterbong
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 2:54 am Post subject:
if you attempt to picket them and force the issue, won't you be sacrificing yourself to the brand of childfucker or goatfucker? it would bring more out than maybe you want, or more than is actually real.
Why should GLBT's organizations exclude other deviants?
Shouldn't they all be under the same umbrella of those BORN that way?
Give me a break. You would deny them the right to marry, when their relationship is none of your business.
Tell me, hairy back, is your opposition to gay marriage because you feel you might be enticed/compelled to marry a man? If not, how is it any of it any of your business?
Why should GLBT's organizations exclude other deviants?
Shouldn't they all be under the same umbrella of those BORN that way?
Give me a break. You would deny them the right to marry, when their relationship is none of your business.
So you think they should be allowed to marry farm animals and children?
You see - here is his stupidity.
There is no comparing the two groups.
With children - they are too young to consent - therefore it's rape. Rape will never be legal.
With animals - they are a different species - will never be legal.
You have to be as thick as S*** not to get your head round that.
What about farm animals...
Two men aren't going to conceive a child nor is a man and a goat!
Sounds to me that a goat union has more in common than a hetero union!
Why should GLBT's organizations exclude other deviants?
Shouldn't they all be under the same umbrella of those BORN that way?
Give me a break. You would deny them the right to marry, when their relationship is none of your business.
So you think they should be allowed to marry farm animals and children?
You see - here is his stupidity.
There is no comparing the two groups.
With children - they are too young to consent - therefore it's rape. Rape will never be legal.
With animals - they are a different species - will never be legal.
You have to be as thick as S*** not to get your head round that.
What about farm animals...
Two men aren't going to conceive a child nor is a man and a goat!
Sounds to me that a goat union has more in common than a hetero union!
Conceiving is one thing, parenting is another thing. But you wouldn't know anything about that, would you hairy-back?
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: Are LGBT's organizations HATERS?
noodles wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
Are LGBT's organization HATERS? when they do not allow men and women with the sexual orientation for children and or goats in their organization?
Should their elitist attitude of exclusion to those that are born with the desire to love children and or goats be stopped?
Should we make them accept all non standard sexual orientations into their group?
Name some organisations where the rules state that straight people arnt welcome? As for the goats
It would also be interesting for you to name any reputable and true LGBT organsiation that extends child love to sexual relations.
The 1972 Gay Rights Platform
Platform created at the National Coalition of Gay Organizations Convention held in Chicago in 1972
FEDERAL LEVEL:
1. Amend all federal Civil Rights Acts, other legislation and government controls to prohibit discrimination in employment, housing, public accommodations and public services.
2. Issuance by the President of an executive order prohibiting the military from excluding for reasons of their sexual orientation, persons who of their own volition desire entrance into the Armed Services; and from issuing less-than-fully-honorable discharges for homosexuality; and the upgrading to fully honorable all such discharges previously issued, with retroactive benefits.
3. Issuance by the President of an executive order prohibiting discrimination in the federal civil service because of sexual orientation, in hiring and promoting; and prohibiting discriminations against homosexuals in security clearances.
4. Elimination of tax inequities victimizing single persons and same-sex couples.
5. Elimination of bars to the entry, immigration and naturalization of homosexual aliens.
6. Federal encouragement and support for sex education courses, prepared and taught by gay women and men, presenting homosexuality as a valid, healthy preference and lifestyle as a viable alternative to heterosexuality.
7. Appropriate executive orders, regulations and legislation banning the compiling, maintenance and dissemination of information on an individual's sexual preferences, behavior, and social and political activities for dossiers and data banks.
8. Federal funding of aid programs of gay men's and women's organizations designed to alleviate the problems encountered by Gay women and men which are engendered by an oppressive sexist society.
9. Immediate release of all Gay women and men now incarcerated in detention centers, prisons and mental institutions because of sexual offense charges relating to victimless crimes or sexual orientation; and that adequate compensation be made for the physical and mental duress encountered; and that all existing records relating to the incarceration be immediately expunged.
STATE LEVEL:
1. All federal legislation and programs enumerated in Demands 1, 6, 7, 8, and 9 above should be implemented at the State level where applicable.
2. Repeal of all state laws prohibiting private sexual acts involving consenting persons; equalization for homosexuals and heterosexuals for the enforcement of all laws.
3. Repeal all state laws prohibiting solicitation for private voluntary sexual liaisons; and laws prohibiting prostitution, both male and female.
4. Enactment of legislation prohibiting insurance companies and any other state-regulated enterprises from discriminating because of sexual orientation, in insurance and in bonding or any other prerequisite to employment or control of one's personal demesne.
5. Enactment of legislation so that child custody, adoption, visitation rights, foster parenting, and the like shall not be denied because of sexual orientation or marital status.
6. Repeal of all state laws prohibiting transvestism and cross-dressing.
7. Repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent.
8. Repeal of all legislative provisions that restrict the sex or number of persons entering into a marriage unit; and the extension of legal benefits to all persons who cohabit regardless of sex or numbers.
And the ONLY reason that's no longer on todays gay agenda....
Anita Bryant calling you out on it.
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: Are LGBT's organizations HATERS?
Fred75 wrote:
noodles wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
Are LGBT's organization HATERS? when they do not allow men and women with the sexual orientation for children and or goats in their organization?
Should their elitist attitude of exclusion to those that are born with the desire to love children and or goats be stopped?
Should we make them accept all non standard sexual orientations into their group?
Name some organisations where the rules state that straight people arnt welcome? As for the goats
It would also be interesting for you to name any reputable and true LGBT organsiation that extends child love to sexual relations.
The 1972 Gay Rights Platform
Platform created at the National Coalition of Gay Organizations Convention held in Chicago in 1972
FEDERAL LEVEL:
1. Amend all federal Civil Rights Acts, other legislation and government controls to prohibit discrimination in employment, housing, public accommodations and public services.
2. Issuance by the President of an executive order prohibiting the military from excluding for reasons of their sexual orientation, persons who of their own volition desire entrance into the Armed Services; and from issuing less-than-fully-honorable discharges for homosexuality; and the upgrading to fully honorable all such discharges previously issued, with retroactive benefits.
3. Issuance by the President of an executive order prohibiting discrimination in the federal civil service because of sexual orientation, in hiring and promoting; and prohibiting discriminations against homosexuals in security clearances.
4. Elimination of tax inequities victimizing single persons and same-sex couples.
5. Elimination of bars to the entry, immigration and naturalization of homosexual aliens.
6. Federal encouragement and support for sex education courses, prepared and taught by gay women and men, presenting homosexuality as a valid, healthy preference and lifestyle as a viable alternative to heterosexuality.
7. Appropriate executive orders, regulations and legislation banning the compiling, maintenance and dissemination of information on an individual's sexual preferences, behavior, and social and political activities for dossiers and data banks.
8. Federal funding of aid programs of gay men's and women's organizations designed to alleviate the problems encountered by Gay women and men which are engendered by an oppressive sexist society.
9. Immediate release of all Gay women and men now incarcerated in detention centers, prisons and mental institutions because of sexual offense charges relating to victimless crimes or sexual orientation; and that adequate compensation be made for the physical and mental duress encountered; and that all existing records relating to the incarceration be immediately expunged.
STATE LEVEL:
1. All federal legislation and programs enumerated in Demands 1, 6, 7, 8, and 9 above should be implemented at the State level where applicable.
2. Repeal of all state laws prohibiting private sexual acts involving consenting persons; equalization for homosexuals and heterosexuals for the enforcement of all laws.
3. Repeal all state laws prohibiting solicitation for private voluntary sexual liaisons; and laws prohibiting prostitution, both male and female.
4. Enactment of legislation prohibiting insurance companies and any other state-regulated enterprises from discriminating because of sexual orientation, in insurance and in bonding or any other prerequisite to employment or control of one's personal demesne.
5. Enactment of legislation so that child custody, adoption, visitation rights, foster parenting, and the like shall not be denied because of sexual orientation or marital status.
6. Repeal of all state laws prohibiting transvestism and cross-dressing.
7. Repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent.
8. Repeal of all legislative provisions that restrict the sex or number of persons entering into a marriage unit; and the extension of legal benefits to all persons who cohabit regardless of sex or numbers.
And the ONLY reason that's no longer on todays gay agenda....
Anita Bryant [b]calling you out on it.[/b]
Ok first of all rule nine wasnt of my making so to direct it towards me personally is pathetic
Whilst I totally agree that there should be an age of consent and number 9 is not a statement id agree with (nor any gay person i know) your stuff is out of date. If you wanna take it back to the victorian times the age of consent was 12 and that was a straight law so that men could legally have sex with children.
I also feel that number 9 was there (albeit not thought out propery) because men were being crininalised and inprisoned in many cases for having consentual sex with other 'men'. I dont believe it was there so that gay men and women could run around the streets grabbing children and having sex with them down alleys cause quite simply it'd be legal to do so
Aside from number 9 I find all the others totally acceptable by todays standards also, and am glad to say that here in the UK there are many more freedoms for gay and trans people. Although societies view of trans people is sadly years behind.
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: Are LGBT's organizations HATERS?
noodles wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
noodles wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
Are LGBT's organization HATERS? when they do not allow men and women with the sexual orientation for children and or goats in their organization?
Should their elitist attitude of exclusion to those that are born with the desire to love children and or goats be stopped?
Should we make them accept all non standard sexual orientations into their group?
Name some organisations where the rules state that straight people arnt welcome? As for the goats
It would also be interesting for you to name any reputable and true LGBT organsiation that extends child love to sexual relations.
The 1972 Gay Rights Platform
Platform created at the National Coalition of Gay Organizations Convention held in Chicago in 1972
FEDERAL LEVEL:
1. Amend all federal Civil Rights Acts, other legislation and government controls to prohibit discrimination in employment, housing, public accommodations and public services.
2. Issuance by the President of an executive order prohibiting the military from excluding for reasons of their sexual orientation, persons who of their own volition desire entrance into the Armed Services; and from issuing less-than-fully-honorable discharges for homosexuality; and the upgrading to fully honorable all such discharges previously issued, with retroactive benefits.
3. Issuance by the President of an executive order prohibiting discrimination in the federal civil service because of sexual orientation, in hiring and promoting; and prohibiting discriminations against homosexuals in security clearances.
4. Elimination of tax inequities victimizing single persons and same-sex couples.
5. Elimination of bars to the entry, immigration and naturalization of homosexual aliens.
6. Federal encouragement and support for sex education courses, prepared and taught by gay women and men, presenting homosexuality as a valid, healthy preference and lifestyle as a viable alternative to heterosexuality.
7. Appropriate executive orders, regulations and legislation banning the compiling, maintenance and dissemination of information on an individual's sexual preferences, behavior, and social and political activities for dossiers and data banks.
8. Federal funding of aid programs of gay men's and women's organizations designed to alleviate the problems encountered by Gay women and men which are engendered by an oppressive sexist society.
9. Immediate release of all Gay women and men now incarcerated in detention centers, prisons and mental institutions because of sexual offense charges relating to victimless crimes or sexual orientation; and that adequate compensation be made for the physical and mental duress encountered; and that all existing records relating to the incarceration be immediately expunged.
STATE LEVEL:
1. All federal legislation and programs enumerated in Demands 1, 6, 7, 8, and 9 above should be implemented at the State level where applicable.
2. Repeal of all state laws prohibiting private sexual acts involving consenting persons; equalization for homosexuals and heterosexuals for the enforcement of all laws.
3. Repeal all state laws prohibiting solicitation for private voluntary sexual liaisons; and laws prohibiting prostitution, both male and female.
4. Enactment of legislation prohibiting insurance companies and any other state-regulated enterprises from discriminating because of sexual orientation, in insurance and in bonding or any other prerequisite to employment or control of one's personal demesne.
5. Enactment of legislation so that child custody, adoption, visitation rights, foster parenting, and the like shall not be denied because of sexual orientation or marital status.
6. Repeal of all state laws prohibiting transvestism and cross-dressing.
7. Repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent.
8. Repeal of all legislative provisions that restrict the sex or number of persons entering into a marriage unit; and the extension of legal benefits to all persons who cohabit regardless of sex or numbers.
And the ONLY reason that's no longer on todays gay agenda....
Anita Bryant [b]calling you out on it.[/b]
Aside from number 9 I find all the others totally acceptable by todays standards