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Postby The Colonel on Fri May 16, 2008 12:18 am

Fred75 wrote:
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Fred75 wrote:
ZiaAries wrote:At the rate of the spread of AIDS, babies born with AIDS, the deaths due to AIDS, the population growth that is already hungry for food, lack of medical needs, money and much more, I think it is totally irresponsible for condoms not to be passed out. The spread of AIDS is also passed by unfaithful husbands as well. An innocent party is being exposed and possibly a child as well. In all good faith and as a believer in God and human rights, I would hand them out with a clean and clear conscience to these people under the present dire circumstances. We are not talking about giving them to western school children here, these are people with little or NO education. If a condom can save a life and then a 2nd life and stop the suffering, then I say... pass them out over there!!!


No.
See, you see people as children. And upon doing so you teach and tell them they are children.

I want them to be adults and learn that there are consequences for being immoral.

So, just like gay men geting AIDS from Anal sex is the punishment set down to them for thier immorality....
So is the children that die from their parents immorality.

Everything has a price.
handing out condoms teachs nothing but more irresponsibility.

I prefer to leave the high price of death on the table so boys can grow up and see the true cost of an immoral society.

Because the fact is.... if everyone were to be moral and not promiscuous... AIDS would disappear! PERIOD.


You are the only immoral one.

Your analysis is absolutely incorrect.


Pick it apart and show me where I am wrong then!

But you cant. Can you?


I've done it before. You didn't take note then and you won't know. I'm not wasting my time.

Something for you from California:

"In contrast to earlier times, our state now recognizes that an individual's capacity to establish a loving and long-term committed relationship with another person and responsibly to care for and raise children does not depend upon the individual's sexual orientation," - Chief Justice Ronald George. From the Republican dominated Supreme Court.
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Postby ZiaAries on Fri May 16, 2008 3:18 am

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Postby Big Ben on Fri May 16, 2008 3:42 am

Colonel, there's a thread on that California attempt in the Members chit-chat section.

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Postby Fred75 on Fri May 16, 2008 1:14 pm

The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
ZiaAries wrote:At the rate of the spread of AIDS, babies born with AIDS, the deaths due to AIDS, the population growth that is already hungry for food, lack of medical needs, money and much more, I think it is totally irresponsible for condoms not to be passed out. The spread of AIDS is also passed by unfaithful husbands as well. An innocent party is being exposed and possibly a child as well. In all good faith and as a believer in God and human rights, I would hand them out with a clean and clear conscience to these people under the present dire circumstances. We are not talking about giving them to western school children here, these are people with little or NO education. If a condom can save a life and then a 2nd life and stop the suffering, then I say... pass them out over there!!!


No.
See, you see people as children. And upon doing so you teach and tell them they are children.

I want them to be adults and learn that there are consequences for being immoral.

So, just like gay men geting AIDS from Anal sex is the punishment set down to them for thier immorality....
So is the children that die from their parents immorality.

Everything has a price.
handing out condoms teachs nothing but more irresponsibility.

I prefer to leave the high price of death on the table so boys can grow up and see the true cost of an immoral society.

Because the fact is.... if everyone were to be moral and not promiscuous... AIDS would disappear! PERIOD.


You are the only immoral one.

Your analysis is absolutely incorrect.


Pick it apart and show me where I am wrong then!

But you cant. Can you?


I've done it before. You didn't take note then and you won't know. I'm not wasting my time.

Something for you from California:

"In contrast to earlier times, our state now recognizes that an individual's capacity to establish a loving and long-term committed relationship with another person and responsibly to care for and raise children does not depend upon the individual's sexual orientation," - Chief Justice Ronald George. From the Republican dominated Supreme Court.


Sp explain to us how that's different than an argument for a single mum to bang out babies and not bother with a father in the house for the child(ren)?

It's NOT.

Because BOTH are selfish desires that TRUMP the needs of a child to be raised by both parents.


I hope your grandchild never see's other children with THEIR mothers and fathers so he doesn't have to wonder why he was robbed!
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded." Obama.

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Postby The Colonel on Fri May 16, 2008 1:17 pm

Fred75 wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
ZiaAries wrote:At the rate of the spread of AIDS, babies born with AIDS, the deaths due to AIDS, the population growth that is already hungry for food, lack of medical needs, money and much more, I think it is totally irresponsible for condoms not to be passed out. The spread of AIDS is also passed by unfaithful husbands as well. An innocent party is being exposed and possibly a child as well. In all good faith and as a believer in God and human rights, I would hand them out with a clean and clear conscience to these people under the present dire circumstances. We are not talking about giving them to western school children here, these are people with little or NO education. If a condom can save a life and then a 2nd life and stop the suffering, then I say... pass them out over there!!!


No.
See, you see people as children. And upon doing so you teach and tell them they are children.

I want them to be adults and learn that there are consequences for being immoral.

So, just like gay men geting AIDS from Anal sex is the punishment set down to them for thier immorality....
So is the children that die from their parents immorality.

Everything has a price.
handing out condoms teachs nothing but more irresponsibility.

I prefer to leave the high price of death on the table so boys can grow up and see the true cost of an immoral society.

Because the fact is.... if everyone were to be moral and not promiscuous... AIDS would disappear! PERIOD.


You are the only immoral one.

Your analysis is absolutely incorrect.


Pick it apart and show me where I am wrong then!

But you cant. Can you?


I've done it before. You didn't take note then and you won't know. I'm not wasting my time.

Something for you from California:

"In contrast to earlier times, our state now recognizes that an individual's capacity to establish a loving and long-term committed relationship with another person and responsibly to care for and raise children does not depend upon the individual's sexual orientation," - Chief Justice Ronald George. From the Republican dominated Supreme Court.


Sp explain to us how that's different than an argument for a single mum to bang out babies and not bother with a father in the house for the child(ren)?

It's NOT.

Because BOTH are selfish desires that TRUMP the needs of a child to be raised by both parents.


I hope your grandchild never see's other children with THEIR mothers and fathers so he doesn't have to wonder why he was robbed!


I'm not going to repeat myself.

You can't be robbed of what you never had.
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Postby Fred75 on Fri May 16, 2008 1:21 pm

The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
ZiaAries wrote:At the rate of the spread of AIDS, babies born with AIDS, the deaths due to AIDS, the population growth that is already hungry for food, lack of medical needs, money and much more, I think it is totally irresponsible for condoms not to be passed out. The spread of AIDS is also passed by unfaithful husbands as well. An innocent party is being exposed and possibly a child as well. In all good faith and as a believer in God and human rights, I would hand them out with a clean and clear conscience to these people under the present dire circumstances. We are not talking about giving them to western school children here, these are people with little or NO education. If a condom can save a life and then a 2nd life and stop the suffering, then I say... pass them out over there!!!


No.
See, you see people as children. And upon doing so you teach and tell them they are children.

I want them to be adults and learn that there are consequences for being immoral.

So, just like gay men geting AIDS from Anal sex is the punishment set down to them for thier immorality....
So is the children that die from their parents immorality.

Everything has a price.
handing out condoms teachs nothing but more irresponsibility.

I prefer to leave the high price of death on the table so boys can grow up and see the true cost of an immoral society.

Because the fact is.... if everyone were to be moral and not promiscuous... AIDS would disappear! PERIOD.


You are the only immoral one.

Your analysis is absolutely incorrect.


Pick it apart and show me where I am wrong then!

But you cant. Can you?


I've done it before. You didn't take note then and you won't know. I'm not wasting my time.

Something for you from California:

"In contrast to earlier times, our state now recognizes that an individual's capacity to establish a loving and long-term committed relationship with another person and responsibly to care for and raise children does not depend upon the individual's sexual orientation," - Chief Justice Ronald George. From the Republican dominated Supreme Court.


Sp explain to us how that's different than an argument for a single mum to bang out babies and not bother with a father in the house for the child(ren)?

It's NOT.

Because BOTH are selfish desires that TRUMP the needs of a child to be raised by both parents.


I hope your grandchild never see's other children with THEIR mothers and fathers so he doesn't have to wonder why he was robbed!


I'm not going to repeat myself.

You can't be robbed of what you never had.


Oh... they can grow children in test tubes to full term now eh?
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded." Obama.

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Postby The Colonel on Fri May 16, 2008 1:30 pm

Fred75 wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
ZiaAries wrote:At the rate of the spread of AIDS, babies born with AIDS, the deaths due to AIDS, the population growth that is already hungry for food, lack of medical needs, money and much more, I think it is totally irresponsible for condoms not to be passed out. The spread of AIDS is also passed by unfaithful husbands as well. An innocent party is being exposed and possibly a child as well. In all good faith and as a believer in God and human rights, I would hand them out with a clean and clear conscience to these people under the present dire circumstances. We are not talking about giving them to western school children here, these are people with little or NO education. If a condom can save a life and then a 2nd life and stop the suffering, then I say... pass them out over there!!!


No.
See, you see people as children. And upon doing so you teach and tell them they are children.

I want them to be adults and learn that there are consequences for being immoral.

So, just like gay men geting AIDS from Anal sex is the punishment set down to them for thier immorality....
So is the children that die from their parents immorality.

Everything has a price.
handing out condoms teachs nothing but more irresponsibility.

I prefer to leave the high price of death on the table so boys can grow up and see the true cost of an immoral society.

Because the fact is.... if everyone were to be moral and not promiscuous... AIDS would disappear! PERIOD.


You are the only immoral one.

Your analysis is absolutely incorrect.


Pick it apart and show me where I am wrong then!

But you cant. Can you?


I've done it before. You didn't take note then and you won't know. I'm not wasting my time.

Something for you from California:

"In contrast to earlier times, our state now recognizes that an individual's capacity to establish a loving and long-term committed relationship with another person and responsibly to care for and raise children does not depend upon the individual's sexual orientation," - Chief Justice Ronald George. From the Republican dominated Supreme Court.


Sp explain to us how that's different than an argument for a single mum to bang out babies and not bother with a father in the house for the child(ren)?

It's NOT.

Because BOTH are selfish desires that TRUMP the needs of a child to be raised by both parents.


I hope your grandchild never see's other children with THEIR mothers and fathers so he doesn't have to wonder why he was robbed!


I'm not going to repeat myself.

You can't be robbed of what you never had.


Oh... they can grow children in test tubes to full term now eh?


You tell me, is that where your mother got your father's sperm?
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Postby Fred75 on Mon May 19, 2008 11:22 pm

The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
ZiaAries wrote:At the rate of the spread of AIDS, babies born with AIDS, the deaths due to AIDS, the population growth that is already hungry for food, lack of medical needs, money and much more, I think it is totally irresponsible for condoms not to be passed out. The spread of AIDS is also passed by unfaithful husbands as well. An innocent party is being exposed and possibly a child as well. In all good faith and as a believer in God and human rights, I would hand them out with a clean and clear conscience to these people under the present dire circumstances. We are not talking about giving them to western school children here, these are people with little or NO education. If a condom can save a life and then a 2nd life and stop the suffering, then I say... pass them out over there!!!


No.
See, you see people as children. And upon doing so you teach and tell them they are children.

I want them to be adults and learn that there are consequences for being immoral.

So, just like gay men geting AIDS from Anal sex is the punishment set down to them for thier immorality....
So is the children that die from their parents immorality.

Everything has a price.
handing out condoms teachs nothing but more irresponsibility.

I prefer to leave the high price of death on the table so boys can grow up and see the true cost of an immoral society.

Because the fact is.... if everyone were to be moral and not promiscuous... AIDS would disappear! PERIOD.


You are the only immoral one.

Your analysis is absolutely incorrect.


Pick it apart and show me where I am wrong then!

But you cant. Can you?


I've done it before. You didn't take note then and you won't know. I'm not wasting my time.

Something for you from California:

"In contrast to earlier times, our state now recognizes that an individual's capacity to establish a loving and long-term committed relationship with another person and responsibly to care for and raise children does not depend upon the individual's sexual orientation," - Chief Justice Ronald George. From the Republican dominated Supreme Court.


Sp explain to us how that's different than an argument for a single mum to bang out babies and not bother with a father in the house for the child(ren)?

It's NOT.

Because BOTH are selfish desires that TRUMP the needs of a child to be raised by both parents.


I hope your grandchild never see's other children with THEIR mothers and fathers so he doesn't have to wonder why he was robbed!


I'm not going to repeat myself.

You can't be robbed of what you never had.


Oh... they can grow children in test tubes to full term now eh?


You tell me, is that where your mother got your father's sperm?


No.
But one of your grandchildren will come from a test tube.
For no woman in her right mind that knows why blood banks refuse your sons blood is also going to let him personally donate into her!
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded." Obama.

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Postby The Colonel on Tue May 20, 2008 4:55 pm

Fred75 wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
ZiaAries wrote:At the rate of the spread of AIDS, babies born with AIDS, the deaths due to AIDS, the population growth that is already hungry for food, lack of medical needs, money and much more, I think it is totally irresponsible for condoms not to be passed out. The spread of AIDS is also passed by unfaithful husbands as well. An innocent party is being exposed and possibly a child as well. In all good faith and as a believer in God and human rights, I would hand them out with a clean and clear conscience to these people under the present dire circumstances. We are not talking about giving them to western school children here, these are people with little or NO education. If a condom can save a life and then a 2nd life and stop the suffering, then I say... pass them out over there!!!


No.
See, you see people as children. And upon doing so you teach and tell them they are children.

I want them to be adults and learn that there are consequences for being immoral.

So, just like gay men geting AIDS from Anal sex is the punishment set down to them for thier immorality....
So is the children that die from their parents immorality.

Everything has a price.
handing out condoms teachs nothing but more irresponsibility.

I prefer to leave the high price of death on the table so boys can grow up and see the true cost of an immoral society.

Because the fact is.... if everyone were to be moral and not promiscuous... AIDS would disappear! PERIOD.


You are the only immoral one.

Your analysis is absolutely incorrect.


Pick it apart and show me where I am wrong then!

But you cant. Can you?


I've done it before. You didn't take note then and you won't know. I'm not wasting my time.

Something for you from California:

"In contrast to earlier times, our state now recognizes that an individual's capacity to establish a loving and long-term committed relationship with another person and responsibly to care for and raise children does not depend upon the individual's sexual orientation," - Chief Justice Ronald George. From the Republican dominated Supreme Court.


Sp explain to us how that's different than an argument for a single mum to bang out babies and not bother with a father in the house for the child(ren)?

It's NOT.

Because BOTH are selfish desires that TRUMP the needs of a child to be raised by both parents.


I hope your grandchild never see's other children with THEIR mothers and fathers so he doesn't have to wonder why he was robbed!


I'm not going to repeat myself.

You can't be robbed of what you never had.


Oh... they can grow children in test tubes to full term now eh?


You tell me, is that where your mother got your father's sperm?


No.
But one of your grandchildren will come from a test tube.
For no woman in her right mind that knows why blood banks refuse your sons blood is also going to let him personally donate into her!


They do not refuse my son's blood, and in any case it is blue blood - the blood of royalty.

Just like mine. Superior by far to yours.
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Postby Fred75 on Tue May 20, 2008 5:38 pm

The Colonel wrote:

They do not refuse my son's blood, and in any case it is blue blood - the blood of royalty.

Just like mine. Superior by far to yours.


Well... as soon as he starts taking it up the arse his donations will end up down the toilet along with the crack hores blood.
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded." Obama.

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Postby Fred75 on Tue May 20, 2008 5:58 pm

The Colonel wrote:
Something for you from California:

"In contrast to earlier times, our state now recognizes that an individual's capacity to establish a loving and long-term committed relationship with another person and responsibly to care for and raise children does not depend upon the individual's sexual orientation," - Chief Justice Ronald George. From the Republican dominated Supreme Court.



So then, Colonel, the courts are right about letting abortion take place too?
And the courts will be again right when they say a fetus is not a person and that aborting a few "gay" cells is also legal?

That correct then Colonel....the courts know better?
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded." Obama.

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Postby Cambridge on Fri May 23, 2008 6:03 am

Yep, hairy-back. The Court’s are right. You may as well accept it, as it is a lot bigger than you. And smarter than you. The courts deal in these thorny questions and try to come up with answers that meet with the public consensus about “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.” Yep, abortion is legal. And gay marriages are now legal in the state that has 1 in 8 voters in the US. Your attempt to tease out emotional responses does not deter the simple logic of these decisions. They are real and they are justified.

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Postby Fred75 on Fri May 23, 2008 1:45 pm

Cambridge wrote:Yep, hairy-back. The Court’s are right. You may as well accept it, as it is a lot bigger than you. And smarter than you. The courts deal in these thorny questions and try to come up with answers that meet with the public consensus about “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.” Yep, abortion is legal. And gay marriages are now legal in the state that has 1 in 8 voters in the US. Your attempt to tease out emotional responses does not deter the simple logic of these decisions. They are real and they are justified.


In my country Roe VS Wade was done by the courts.
It was never decided democratically by the people.
Who by the way, get to decide what's best for their own society. Not the courts.
So, technically, abortion is not legal because society never made it law!
The Constitution never mentions a womans right to one!
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Postby The Colonel on Fri May 23, 2008 1:47 pm

Fred75 wrote:
The Colonel wrote:

They do not refuse my son's blood, and in any case it is blue blood - the blood of royalty.

Just like mine. Superior by far to yours.


Well... as soon as he starts taking it up the arse his donations will end up down the toilet along with the crack hores blood.


He's already done so. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby The Colonel on Fri May 23, 2008 1:48 pm

Fred75 wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
Something for you from California:

"In contrast to earlier times, our state now recognizes that an individual's capacity to establish a loving and long-term committed relationship with another person and responsibly to care for and raise children does not depend upon the individual's sexual orientation," - Chief Justice Ronald George. From the Republican dominated Supreme Court.



So then, Colonel, the courts are right about letting abortion take place too?
And the courts will be again right when they say a fetus is not a person and that aborting a few "gay" cells is also legal?

That correct then Colonel....the courts know better?


Irrelevant.

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