I notice the progression in your line of thinking stops before it is played out to conclusion. It is more than you suggest. When a man asks his woman to put a top on, or wear a skirt of a non exposing length, it is a matter of respect. Respect for the relationship in keeping some things sacred; respect for the woman to not be putting herself on display, which works into even more self respect for her. When one line is crossed, it makes it so much easier to cross the next line, and the next, and the next. Until the boundaries of the relationship are so blurred, there is nothing much left keeping it together. I don't see that as controlling, I see it as common sense.
i agree with you, it is about having respect for the relationship and one'sself
im a woman and i wouldn't go topless, one because i wouldn't feel comfortable being exposed
and 2, i get enough perverted looks from like 60 year old men, and i dress very modestly to avoid that (i'm 17, btw)
if i were topless i'd just more of those looks from old men, and i don't want to be looked at as an object, or as something with boobs, but as a person. it is about having respect for yourself and your rights to be seen as a human not a sex toy
you say you don't want 60 YOs looking at you,
in most cases, these older men are remembering the days/nights that their women looked like that, no leering intended, I'm a woman and sometimes I look and remember the days when men would look at me much more than they do now, and when the times comes I think you may feel the same, learn to enjoy it, and savour it while you got the looks, Sally
I go topless when out in the sun (donīt like sunbathing as such) if it is in private or if it is on a beach where topless is allowed.
Have been topless also with partners as they have themselves liked to be topless.
However, I would not be topless if it would be inappropriate, as in: When in Rome, do as the romans do...
I notice the progression in your line of thinking stops before it is played out to conclusion. It is more than you suggest. When a man asks his woman to put a top on, or wear a skirt of a non exposing length, it is a matter of respect. Respect for the relationship in keeping some things sacred; respect for the woman to not be putting herself on display, which works into even more self respect for her. When one line is crossed, it makes it so much easier to cross the next line, and the next, and the next. Until the boundaries of the relationship are so blurred, there is nothing much left keeping it together. I don't see that as controlling, I see it as common sense.
i agree with you, it is about having respect for the relationship and one'sself
im a woman and i wouldn't go topless, one because i wouldn't feel comfortable being exposed
and 2, i get enough perverted looks from like 60 year old men, and i dress very modestly to avoid that (i'm 17, btw)
if i were topless i'd just more of those looks from old men, and i don't want to be looked at as an object, or as something with boobs, but as a person. it is about having respect for yourself and your rights to be seen as a human not a sex toy
you say you don't want 60 YOs looking at you,
in most cases, these older men are remembering the days/nights that their women looked like that, no leering intended, I'm a woman and sometimes I look and remember the days when men would look at me much more than they do now, and when the times comes I think you may feel the same, learn to enjoy it, and savour it while you got the looks, Sally
Well said, Sally. We've got ours and let them have theirs. I've got a few more words to say about youth, pregnacy and ignorance, but why bother? The point is not to convince them to admire me, but to meet someone as beautiful as you.
Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 326 Location: Sus-Bleedin-sex innit
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:16 am Post subject:
Reading all these posts, it occurs to me that attitudes to toplessness are as much to do with where you are, or where you were brought up as anything else.
On the south coast of England going topless just isn't an issue. On most sunny days roughly half the women on any of the beaches are topless, it is so familiar that for a man to oggle them makes him stand out as a bit of an oddity.
Having said that I have noticed the almost paralytic shock that a 'natural' nursing mother can cause in the mid U.S.
I've always thought that this difference of attitude explains why american men seem to have a weird, almost childish novelty/taboo fascination with 'jugs', while here in the UK 'tits' seem to figure more naturaly as a sign of femininity for both sexes.
A close friend of mine on holiday in new york, unthinkingly swam topless in a private leisure club's pool, only to find out that the family that she was a guest of had been banned shortly afterwards for not 'controlling' her - seems the staff were too shocked to cause a scene, or even ask her to cover up.
I have to agree with you. what you were brought up around does change alot. And swimming and sunbathing should be natural to be done topless. though during your normal day both men and women should have there tops covered. I thing men show off there chest at the wrong times to often.
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