A Primer On the Causes of the Global Credit Crisis

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A Primer On the Causes of the Global Credit Crisis

Postby myron myron on Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:00 pm



Until a couple weeks ago when I became professionally engaged in a project arising from the collapse of the subprime mortgage industry in the United States, I considered the term "global credit crisis" unduly alarmist because I couldn't fathom how the proliferation of defaults on subprime mortgages by American homeowners during the last year -- though unfortunate for the defaulting homeowners who lost their homes and the lending institutions that made the bad loans -- could have such far-reaching catastrophic consequences.

Now I know better.

I now know that the widespread defaults by American subprime borrowers have indeed had catastrophic consequences both to the American domestic economy and to the global economy owing to the unprincipled greed and deception on the part of certain Wall Street investment banks and certain individuals.

The mechanics of the charade are complex, but for those interested I will try to explain as simply as I can.

Two financial vehicles called derivatives -- collateralized debt obligation (CDO) and mortgage-backed security (MBS) -- were directly responsible for inflating the housing bubble and for causing tens of billions of dollars of losses on Wall Street.

We’ll start with the basics: there are mortgages. Millions of them. Banks don’t hold them any more -- never mind why. Instead, they have Wall Street firms like Merrill Lynch put thousands of them together in a single vehicle and sell the rights to the principal and interest as bonds known as mortgage-backed securities (MBS). The advantages to this system are many, including the fact that the payment streams can be manipulated, in a good way, so that investors (e.g. mutual funds) can arrange to be paid first -- if some borrowers default -- from the money coming from borrowers in the pool who are still paying. The price for being first in line is accepting a lower interest rate. These securities are the rated AAA by the three major rating agencies (i.e., Fitch, Moody's, Standard & Poor's).

And CDOs? A CDO is another Wall Street-created vehicle that buys bonds or derivatives of bonds, manipulating the cashflows on those, so investors, again, can choose the risk. The difference is that a CDO can buy a whole pool of risky securities, like those rated BBB- (not junk, but not great), for instance, and rearrange the payments so that a large percentage of the pool, 75% even, is rated AAA, as safe as a government savings bond.

For those already lost by the above, I recommend the following December 27, 2007 Wall Street Journal article called “Wall Street Wizardry Amplified Credit Crisis” -- it’s the simplest, best explanation on how these financial instruments that were supposed to spread risk concentrated it instead and rocked the foundations of the American and global economy:



Saturday, December 29, 2007

Wall Street Wizardry Amplified The Credit Crisis

By Carrick Mollenkamp and Serena Ng
From The Wall Street Journal _

In recent years, as home prices and mortgage lending boomed, bankers found ever-more-clever ways to repackage trillions of dollars in loans, selling them off in slivers to investors around the world. Financiers and regulators figured all the activity would disperse risk, and maybe even make markets safer and stronger.

Then along came Norma.

Norma CDO I Ltd., as its full name goes, is one of a new breed of mortgage investments created in the waning days of the U.S. housing boom. Instead of spreading the risk of a global home-finance boom, the instruments have magnified and concentrated the effects of the subprime-mortgage bust. They are now behind tens of billions of dollars of write-downs at some of the world's largest banks, including the $9.4 billion announced last week by Morgan Stanley.

Norma illustrates how investors and Wall Street, in their efforts to keep a lucrative market going, took a good idea too far. Created at the behest of an Illinois hedge fund looking for a tailor-made bet on subprime mortgages, the vehicle was brought into existence by Merrill Lynch & Co. and a posse of little-known partners.

In its use of newfangled derivatives, Norma contributed to a speculative market that dwarfed the value of the subprime mortgages on which it was based. It was also part of a chain of mortgage-linked investments that took stakes in one another. The practice generated fees for a handful of big banks. But, say critics, it created little value for investors or the broader economy.

"Everyone was passing the risk to the next deal and keeping it within a closed system," says Ann Rutledge, a principal of R&R Consulting, a New York structured-finance consultancy. "If you hold my risk and I hold yours, we can say whatever we think it's worth and generate fees from that. It's like...creating artificial value."

Only nine months after selling $1.5 billion in securities to investors, Norma is worth a fraction of its original value. Credit-rating firms, which once signed off approvingly on the deal, have slashed its ratings to junk.

The concept behind Norma, known as a collateralized debt obligation, has been in use since the 1980s. A CDO, most broadly, is a device that repackages the income from a pool of bonds, derivatives or other investments. A mortgage CDO might own pieces of a hundred or more bonds, each of which contains thousands of individual mortgages. Ideally, this diversification makes investors in the CDO less vulnerable to the problems of a single borrower or security.

The CDO issues a new set of securities, each bearing a different degree of risk. The highest-risk pieces of a CDO pay their investors higher returns. Pieces with lower risk, and higher credit ratings, pay less. Investors in the lower-risk pieces are first in line to receive income from the CDO's investments; investors in the higher-risk pieces are first to take losses.

But Norma and similar CDOs added potentially fatal new twists to the model. Rather than diversifying their investments, they bet heavily on securities that had one thing in common: They were among the most vulnerable to a rise in defaults on so-called subprime mortgage loans, typically made to borrowers with poor or patchy credit histories. While this boosted returns, it also increased the chances that losses would hit investors severely.

Also, these CDOs invested in more than simply subprime-backed securities. The CDOs held chunks of each other, as well as derivative contracts that allowed them to bet on mortgage-backed bonds they didn't own. This magnified risk. Wall Street banks took big pieces of Norma and similar CDOs on their own balance sheets, concentrating the losses rather than spreading them among far-flung investors.

"It is a tangled hairball of risk," Janet Tavakoli, a Chicago consultant who specializes in CDOs, says of Norma. "In March of 2007, any savvy investor would have thrown this...in the trash bin."

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Norma was nurtured in a small office building on a busy road in Roslyn, on the north shore of New York's Long Island. There, a stocky, 37-year-old money manager named Corey Ribotsky runs a company called N.I.R. Group LLC. Mr. Ribotsky came not from the world of mortgage securities, but from the arena of penny stocks, shares that trade cheaply and often become targets of speculation or manipulation.

N.I.R. and its affiliates have taken stakes in 300 companies, some little-known, including a brewer called Bootie Beer Corp., lighting firm Cyberlux Corp. and water-purification company R.G. Global Lifestyles. Mr. Ribotsky's firms are in litigation in New York federal court with all three companies, which claim N.I.R. manipulated their share prices. Through its lawyer, N.I.R. denies wrongdoing and has accused the companies of failing to repay loans.

Mr. Ribotsky's firm attracted the attention of Merrill Lynch in 2005. The top underwriter of CDOs from 2004 to mid-2007, Merrill had generated hundreds of millions of dollars in profits from assembling and then helping to distribute CDOs backed by mortgage securities. For each CDO Merrill underwrote, the investment bank earned fees of 1% to 1.50% of the deal's total size, or as much as $15 million for a typical $1 billion CDO.

To keep underwriting fees coming, Merrill recruited outside firms, called CDO managers. Merrill helped them raise funds, procure the assets for their CDOs and find investors. The managers, for their part, choose assets and later monitor the CDO's collateral, although many of the structures don't require much active management. It was an attractive proposition for many start-up firms, which could earn lucrative annual management fees.

Mr. Ribotsky's entry into the world of CDO managers began at Engineers Country Club on Long Island. There, in 2005, he met Mitchell Elman, a New York criminal-defense lawyer who specializes in drunk-driving and drug cases. Mr. Elman introduced Mr. Ribotsky to Kenneth Margolis, then a high-profile CDO salesman at Merrill, according to people familiar with the situation. Mr. Elman declined to comment.

'It Sounded Interesting'

Mr. Margolis, who in February 2006 became co-head of Merrill's CDO banking business, played a key role in seeking out start-up firms to manage CDOs. He put Mr. Ribotsky in contact with a few people who had experience in the mortgage debt market. They included two former Wachovia Corp. bankers, Scott Shannon and Joseph Parish III, who left Wachovia and established their own CDO management firm.

Mr. Ribotsky decided to team up with Messrs. Shannon and Parish. "It sounded interesting and that's how we ventured into it," Mr. Ribotsky says. Messrs. Parish and Shannon declined to discuss specifics of Norma.

Together the trio set up a company called N.I.R. Capital Management, which over the next year or so took on the management of three CDOs underwritten by Merrill.

In 2006, Mr. Ribotsky says Merrill came to N.I.R. with a new proposition: One of the investment bank's clients, a hedge fund, wanted to invest in the riskiest piece of a certain type of CDO. Merrill worked out a general structure for the vehicle. It asked N.I.R. to manage it.

"It was already set up when it was presented to us," Mr. Ribotsky says. "They interviewed a bunch of managers and selected our team."

The CDO would be called Norma, after a small constellation in the southern hemisphere. According to people familiar to the matter, the hedge fund was Evanston, Ill.-based Magnetar, a fund that shared its name with a powerful neutron star. Magnetar declined to comment.

On Dec. 7, 2006, Norma was established as a company domiciled in the Cayman Islands. N.I.R., as its manager, would earn fees of some 0.1%, or about $1.5 million a year.

Norma belonged to a class of instruments known as "mezzanine" CDOs, because they invested in securities with middling credit ratings, averaging triple-B. Despite their risks, mezzanine CDOs boomed in the late stages of the credit cycle as investors reached for the higher returns they offered. In the first half of 2007, issuers put out $68 billion in mortgage CDOs containing securities with an average rating of triple-B or the equivalent -- the lowest investment-grade rating -- or lower, according to research from Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. That was more than double the level for the same period a year earlier.

Buying Protection

For Norma, N.I.R. assembled $1.5 billion in investments. Most were not actual securities, but derivatives linked to triple-B-rated mortgage securities. Called credit default swaps, these derivatives worked like insurance policies on subprime residential mortgage-backed securities or on the CDOs that held them. Norma, acting as the insurer, would receive a regular premium payment, which it would pass on to its investors. The buyer of protection, which was initially Merrill Lynch, would receive payouts from Norma if the insured securities were hurt by losses. It is unclear whether Merrill retained the insurance, or resold it to other investors who were hedging their subprime exposure or betting on a meltdown.

Many investment banks favored CDOs that contained these credit-default swaps, because they didn't require the purchase of securities, a process that typically took months. With credit-default swaps, a billion-dollar CDO could be assembled in weeks.

Multiplying Risk

In principle, credit-default swaps help banks and other investors pass along risks they don't want to keep. But in the case of subprime mortgages, the derivatives have magnified the effect of losses, because they allowed bankers to create an unlimited number of CDOs linked to the same mortgage-backed bonds. UBS Investment Research, a unit of Swiss bank UBS AG, estimates that CDOs sold credit protection on around three times the actual face value of triple-B-rated subprime bonds.

The use of derivatives "multiplied the risk," says Greg Medcraft, chairman of the American Securitization Forum, an industry association. "The subprime-mortgage crisis is far greater in terms of potential losses than anyone expected because it's not just physical loans that are defaulting."

Norma, for its part, bought only about $90 million of mortgage-backed securities, or 6% of its overall holdings. Of that, some were pieces of other CDOs mostly underwritten by Merrill, according to documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal. These CDOs included Scorpius CDO Ltd., managed by a unit of Cohen & Co., a company run by former Merrill CDO chief Christopher Ricciardi. Later, Norma itself would be among the holdings of Glacier Funding CDO V Ltd., managed by an arm of New York mortgage firm Winter Group.

A Winter Group official said the company declined to comment, as did Cohen & Co.

Such cross-selling benefited banks, because it helped support the flow of new CDOs and underwriting fees. In fact, the bulk of the middle-rated pieces of CDOs underwritten by Merrill were purchased by other CDOs that the investment bank arranged, according to people familiar with the matter. Each CDO sold some of its riskier slices to the next CDO, which then sold its own slices to the next deal, and so on.

Propping Up Prices

Critics say the cross-selling reached such proportions that it artificially propped up the prices of CDOs. Rather than widely dispersing exposure to these mortgages, the practice circulated the same risk among a relatively small number of players.

By early 2007, Norma was ready to face the ratings firms. Different slices of CDOs get different ratings because some protect the others from losses to defaults. A "junior" slice might take the first $30 million in losses on a $1 billion CDO, while a triple-A "senior" slice would not be affected until losses reached $200 million or more.

But the system works only if the securities in the CDO are uncorrelated -- that is, if they are unlikely to go bad all at once. Corporate bonds, for example, tend to have low correlation because the companies that issue them operate in different industries, which typically don't get into trouble simultaneously.

Mortgage securities, by contrast, have turned out to be very similar to one another. They're all linked to thousands of loans across the U.S. Anything big enough to trigger defaults on a large portion of those loans -- like falling home prices across the country -- is likely to affect the bonds in a CDO as well. That's particularly true for the kinds of securities on which mezzanine CDOs made their bets. Triple-B-rated bonds would typically stand to suffer if losses to defaults on the underlying pools of loans reached about 10%.

Easy Credit

When rating companies analyzed Norma, though, they were looking backward to a time when rising house prices and easy credit had kept defaults on subprime mortgages low. Norma's marketing documents noted plenty of risks for investors but also said that CDO securities had a high degree of ratings stability.

Beyond that, rating firms say they had reason to believe that the securities wouldn't all go bad at once as the housing market soured. For one, each security contained mortgages from a different mix of lenders, so lending standards might differ from security to security. Also, each security had its own unique team of companies collecting the payments. Yuri Yoshizawa, group managing director at Moody's Investors Service, says the firm figured some of these mortgage servicers would be better than others at handling problematic loans.

In March, Moody's, Standard & Poor's and Fitch Ratings gave Norma their seal of approval. In its report, Fitch cited growing concern about the subprime mortgage business and the high number of borrowers who obtained loans without proof of income. Still, all three rating companies gave slices comprising 75% of the CDO's total value their highest, triple-A rating -- implying they had as little risk as Treasury bonds of the U.S. government.

Merrill and N.I.R. took Norma to investors. Together, they produced a 78-page pitchbook that bore Merrill's trademark bull. Inside were nine pages of risk factors that included standard warnings about CDOs. The pitchbook also extolled mortgage securities, which it noted "have historically exhibited lower default rates, higher recovery upon default and better rating stability than comparably rated corporate bonds."

Most importantly, though, Norma offered high returns: On a riskier triple-B slice, Norma said it would pay investors 5.5 percentage points above the interest rate at which banks lend to each other, known as the London interbank offered rate, or Libor. At the time, that translated into a yield of over 10% on the security -- compared with roughly 6% on triple-B corporate bonds.

Network of Contacts

Mr. Ribotsky says the selling required little effort, as Merrill drummed up interest from its network of contacts. "That's what they get their fees for," he says.

Norma sold some $525 million in CDO slices -- largely the lower-rated ones with higher returns -- to investors. Merrill declined to say whether it kept Norma's triple-A rated, $975 million super-senior tranche or sold it to another financial institution.

Many investment banks with CDO businesses -- Citigroup Inc., Morgan Stanley and UBS -- frequently kept or bought these super-senior pieces, whose lower returns interested few investors. In doing so, they bet that the top CDO slices, which typically comprised as much as 60% of the whole CDO, were insulated from losses.

By September, Norma was in trouble. Amid a steep decline in house prices and rising defaults on mortgage loans, the value of subprime-backed securities went into a free fall. As increasingly worrisome delinquency data rolled in, analysts upped their estimates of total losses on subprime-backed securities issued in 2006 to 20% or more, a level that would wipe out most triple-B-rated securities.

Within weeks, ratings firms began to change their views. In October, Moody's downgraded $33.4 billion worth of mortgage-backed securities, including those which Norma had insured. Those downgrades set the stage for a review of CDOs backed by those securities -- and then further downgrades.

Mezzanine CDOs such as Norma were the hardest hit. On Nov. 2, Moody's slashed the ratings on seven of Norma's nine rated slices, three all the way from investment-grade to junk. Fitch downgraded all nine slices to junk, including two that it had rated triple-A.

Worse Performances

Other mezzanine CDOs, including some underwritten by other investment banks, have had worse performances. Around 30 are now in default, according to S&P. Norma is still paying interest on its securities. It is not known whether it has had to make payouts under the credit default swap agreements.

Ratings companies say their March opinions represented their best read at the time, and called the subprime deterioration unprecedented and unexpectedly rapid. "It's one of the worst performances that we've seen," says Kevin Kendra, a managing director at Fitch. "The world has changed quite drastically -- and our view of the world has changed quite drastically."

By mid-December, $153.5 billion in CDO slices had been downgraded, according to Deutsche Bank. Because banks owned the lion's share of the mezzanine CDOs, they bore the brunt of the losses. In all, banks' write-downs on mortgage investments announced so far add up to more than $70 billion.

For larger banks, holdings of mezzanine CDOs could account for one-third to three-quarters of the total losses. In addition to the $9.4 billion fourth-quarter write-down Morgan Stanley just announced it would take, Citigroup has projected its fourth-quarter write-down could reach $11 billion. UBS said this month it would take a $10 billion write-down after taking a $4.4 billion third-quarter loss.

Merrill, for its part, took a $7.9 billion write-down on mortgage-related holdings in the third quarter. Analysts expect it to write down a similar amount in the current quarter, which would represent the largest losses of any bank. News of the losses have led to the ouster of CEO Stan O'Neal and Osman Semerci, the bank's global head of fixed income. Mr. Margolis left this summer.

Mr. Ribotsky says he doesn't have plans to do any more CDOs at the current time. "Obviously, we're not happy about the occurrences in the marketplace," he says.



Diagram: Rise and Fall of a CDO



The second-biggest CDO and MBS underwriter, 85 year-old New York investment bank Bear Stearns (which survived through the Great Depression without laying off a single employee) saw its cash holdings deteriorate so drastically in the course of one week that it had to be bailed out by the Federal Reserve and sold itself to JP Morgan for $2 per share of stock that only one week earlier was worth more than $100 per share.



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Postby Fred75 on Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:06 pm

I think the president should have stood by his original statement of "Let the free market take care of it's self" and not bailed out B&S!

It's the only thing that will teach them a lesson!
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Postby myron myron on Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:31 pm

Fred75 wrote:I think the president should have stood by his original statement of "Let the free market take care of it's self" and not bailed out B&S!

It's the only thing that will teach them a lesson!

I agree Bear Stearns deserved to fall.

But according to the Federal Reserve, there was (and still is) a very real concern of a snowball effect that could take down other major investment banks and commercial banks and destabilize the entire national and global economy.

Consider the dynamic by which Bear Stearns' stock price plummeted from above $100 a share to $2 a share in one week's time: the market totally lost faith in its creditworthiness and no one would do business with Bear.

This same dynamic could take down other major banks that do not deserve to fall.

All it takes is a well-placed rumor spread through the financial markets at an inopportune time.

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Postby Fred75 on Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:44 pm

myron myron wrote:
Fred75 wrote:I think the president should have stood by his original statement of "Let the free market take care of it's self" and not bailed out B&S!

It's the only thing that will teach them a lesson!

I agree Bear Stearns deserved to fall.

But according to the Federal Reserve, there was (and still is) a very real concern of a snowball effect that could take down other major investment banks and commercial banks and destabilize the entire national and global economy.

Consider the dynamic by which Bear Stearns' stock price plummeted from above $100 a share to $2 a share in one week's time: the market totally lost faith in its creditworthiness and no one would do business with Bear.

This same dynamic could take down other major banks that do not deserve to fall.

All it takes is a well-placed rumor spread through the financial markets at an inopportune time.


I fail to see how banks that kept their noses clean would suffer???
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Postby myron myron on Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:47 pm

No major financial institutions "kept their noses clean" of investments in CDOs.

Even pension funds and insurance companies, which are restricted by law to investing in triple-A rated securities, invested in "senior tranches" of CDOs. Within months, however, the credit rating agencies downgraded those senior tranches from AAA to "junk."

The CDO and the MBS are totally legal, legitimate financial instruments that serve a beneficial purpose if structured prudently.

The problem is that many CDOs were not structured at all prudently.

Bear Stearns was into CDOs big time, which is why Bear Stearns fell big time.

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Postby Fred75 on Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:52 pm

myron myron wrote:No major financial institutions "kept their noses clean" of investments in CDOs.

Even pension funds and insurance companies, which are restricted by law to investing in triple-A rated securities, invested in "senior tranches" of CDOs. Within months, however, the credit rating agencies downgraded those senior tranches from AAA to "junk."

The CDO and the MBS are totally legal, legitimate financial instruments that serve a beneficial purpose if structured prudently.

The problem is that many CDOs were not structured at all prudently.

Bear Stearns was into CDOs big time, which is why Bear Stearns fell big time.


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Postby Gibbous Moon on Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:20 pm

The difficulty with saying that we should let the free market work its magic on the likes of Bear Stearns is that if big banks start to go down the supply of money dries up and this stops the whole economy. If the world’s largest steel producer or oil producer went bust things would be difficult for a bit, prices would rise, production slow down, the whole economy would be shaken but as you don’t need lots of steel and oil to undertake all economic activities (eg running Google or putting on a play) not everything stops and the world’s other large producers of steel or oil expand their production. But because money affects everything if the world’s largest producers of money go bust everything stops.

It the reason for the old saw about banking, “Profits are privatised, losses are Socialised”.

Bankers can (and have done a number of times in the past) taken on too much risk because they know that if their organisation (or the banking industry generally) gets away with it and lands a fat fish it will make big profits (and they, the bankers, will get a fat bonus). If things take a little longer to mature the bankers are on bonuses based on short term performance, so if it looks like the bank is going to land a fat fish, big bonus this year (which don’t have to be given back when the fish fails to be landed). If things go badly wrong for a particular bank, the bankers get massive pay offs. If the whole sector gets into trouble the government has to bail them out, no one else understands how the mess was caused so the bankers get re-hired to fix it. If you are a banker (rather than bank employee, creditor, debtor or shareholder) things are pretty much ok for you whatever happens.

It’s like a scene I saw in a movie once where a gun man hijacked a car. The victim accelerated to 100 mph and said, “What are you going to do, shoot me? I’m the only one who can stop the car.”

So I think we can expect the governments of the world to bail out various banks and then tell the banking industry not to do it again. The banking industry will pretend to co-operate whilst they work out how to do some new clever trick then quietly they will start blowing up a bubble.

In the UK our Bear Stearns is Northern Rock, now privatised because the UK government didn’t fancy selling it for the equivilent of $2.

There’s a nice story about a German Landesbank who got themselves in trouble. A man from the ministry turned up and the board of the Landesbank asked him how he was going to help them (ie how much cash he was going to “lend” them. He said he wasn’t there to help them. He was their to tell them that they were to sell themselves to anyone they could by noon the next day or he was going to shut them down. Those kind of cojones are rare from central bankers and finance departments.

It’s worth noting that the recently appointed Chair of Northern Rock was the same guy who used to run the National Westminster, one of Britain’s largest banks, which was taken over by the, then, much smaller Royal Bank of Scotland. He’s a quality appointment.

Frankly, I favour putting a few of them up against a wall and shooting them. It would concentrate their collective minds a little next time round if they thought they might not be allowed to spend their ill gotten gains.

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Postby Cambridge on Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:20 am

This is a really informative thread. We have the theoretician (Myron—who is a graduate of the greatest economic school in the world: the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania) and the practical guide (GB) and we are all being taken to school. Keep it up, guys.

GB, don’t mean to be personal, but what is your background? You seem like you have a lot to tell us…I mean, you obviously didn’t learn this stuff yesterday. :)

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Postby Big Ben on Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:14 pm

Gibbous Moon:

How do you distinguish in your analysis between investment banks (Bear Stearns) and commercial banks (Northern Rock)?

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Postby Gibbous Moon on Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:53 am

Big Ben,

I’m not sure I do distinguish between them because I think the line between the two has become blurred. Whilst you couldn’t walk into Bear Stearns and get a mortgage or into Northern Rock and get backing for a leveraged Management Buy Out there are lots of areas in the middle where the different types of banks do similar things.

The trading of mortgage based derivatives is one.

Anything you might want to do if you had large amounts of spare cash seems to be fair game for both types. Taking an example from my own industry, power, lots of banks participate in the power commodities markets – they’ve got cash, they’ve got traders and analysts and that’s all you need to buy and sell commodities. Whilst they might not participate directly in exotic alien (for banks) markets retail banks like Northern Rock will place cash with banks that do.

In most cases it’s probably not a bad thing. If Northern Rock can squeeze an extra tenth of a percent out the cash they have then some of that will be passed onto savers, borrowers and shareholders (or tax payers). This time they got a little to clever for their own good but then so did a lot of banks that specialise in this type of thing.

Lots of banks will have retail arms and corporate arms, or have a couple of brands that do various things. RBS for example have high street banks and a big corporate division and own banks in the States that do both.

I think the days were retail banks took your deposits and lent you a mortgage and put the balance of funds safely in the Bank of England left us a decade or two ago.

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I did a law degree (not at such a prestigious alma mater as Myron), then a business MSc, I’m a qualified accountant. I’ve worked in Financial Services (dull) and I now work in the power industry (interesting but can be very slow paced).

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Postby Big Ben on Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:50 am

Gibbous Moon:

While the distinction between commercial banks and investment banks is not as clear as it was thirty years ago, I think there is still a difference. And if governments are going to spend taxpayer money buoying up these institutions and if there may be more failures to come, I think governments should think long and hard about the differences.

Yes, there is some overlap in the business lines and transactions they get involved in, but really they are quite different. Commercial banks never have been able to break into the top tiers of investment banking business (underwriting, long-term bond issuance, etc) and investment banks don't make the loans to businesses that are so important to lubricate the economy, as bridge loans, etc. aren't the same thing. In addition, the cultures at the two places are very different. And while both may get into derivatives, bailing out an institution that made the wrong choices in something like a CDO, for owning a security rather than a loan is getting tricky. They both may have an ultimate connection to real estate, but one is more indirect.

I think the US government didn't want to have to figure out all of Bear Stearns transaction partners and relationships. But I'm not sure I like the trend. Commercial banks are providing direct/primary lubrication to the economy. Investment banks like Bear Stearns through CDO's appear to be providing secondary liquidity to the banks, making it easier for commercial banks to recycle their loans and start over again, except for having been made richer through fees. But this secondary securitization was ill founded and was just reinforcing ill founded primary lending activity. So while I understand the need to bail out big banks, I'm not as sure about investment banks.

Of course, the government didn't have much time to decide about Bear Stearns and had to make a quick decision. I'm just saying for the future they should analyze and think about what kind of financial institutions they want to be bailing out.

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Postby Cambridge on Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:28 am

Excellent points, Ben. I'm not nearly as sophisticated as you, GM or Myron on economics, but I am the expert on politics. I don’t like the way GWB and McCain have come out and said that it’s ok to bail out institutions, but to bail out individuals would send the wrong message to “those who have acted responsibly and paid their bills.”

Predatory lending is the issue here. To say that people who couldn’t pay their mortgages are mischievous is like saying that a woman who got raped and is pregnant is promiscuous. That’s a cruel and totally unwarrented political indictment..

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Postby myron myron on Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:20 am


In the United States, the distinction between an investment bank and a commercial bank is negligible.

Investment banks and commercial banks are often subsidiaries of the same parent.

Moreover, commercial banks perform underwriting functions that were traditionally the province of investment banks.

For example, JP Morgan underwrites securities (an investment banking function) but also owns JP Morgan Chase (a major commercial bank); and Citigroup underwrites securities through its Solomon Smith Barney subsidiary (an investment banking function) but also owns Citibank (a major commercial bank).

And Wachovia (a commercial bank) underwrites securities and performs other investment banking functions.

Even entities that remain traditional investment banks (e.g., Goldman Sachs) provide commercial banking services for their clients.


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Postby Gibbous Moon on Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:30 am

To echo Myron a couple of local examples. One is RBS here in Edinburgh. It’s a pretty big corporate and investment bank but it also has a large retail (commercial) arm. It’s probably one of the largest in the UK (it owns National Westminster). I’d guess it employs 5,000 or more people at head office in Edinburgh.

If the corporate division goes bust because it got itself involved in some ill-founded loan collateralisation then it probably takes the retail division down with it. This would remove lubrication from the day to day business world, give other banks the jitters and damage the local economy of Edinburgh and Britain’s financial services industry. It’s difficult to unentangle the different bits of the banks.

Halifax Bank of Scotland are the other local example. A rumour that HBOS was about to reveal an exposure to sub-prime mortgages (probably started by some people trying to manipulate the market) took £3billion off the market value of HBOS in one day, along with severely denting the share prices of other banks. Again, HBOS is a mixed bank but even if it had been a pure investment bank the effect of it going bust (as revealed in the impact a specific rumour had on it’s competitors’ share price) would be a wide spread hit to confidence.

I don’t think it’s practically possible to divide banks into deserving and undeserving. If one goes down the effect on the others and the industry as a whole is potentially catastrophic. And they know it.

As the old banking joke goes, if a man owes you a hundred thousand dollars and can’t pay, he has a problem, if a man owes you hundred million dollars and can’t pay, you have a problem.

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Postby Big Ben on Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:22 pm

I'm well aware that many Citibank and JP Morgan have investment banking activities/subsidiaries, but I don't agree with the general premise that commercial and investment banks are the same animal. A major investment bank like say Goldman Sachs is not afraid of say Bank of America as an investment banking rival. Even in the couple of exceptions where the giant banks have somewhat respectable investment banking arms, the activities and personnel are separate enough so that the bankruptcy of one sub doesn't necessarily mean the bankruptcy of the other.

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