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shavenbush
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:36 pm    Post subject: At least one country belives in themselves!!!! Reply with quote

Australia Now, Canada Tomorrow?????? ENGLAND TOO LATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Excerpts from an on going debate in Australia.

This is true and can be checked at

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/australia.asp

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Shari law were told on Wednesday to
get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head
off potential terror attacks.

A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to
Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John
Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a
crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard,
hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if
they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were
made by parliament "If those are not your values, if you want a country
which has Shari law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you",
he said on National Television.

"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws
governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another Islamic
law that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent
courts, democracy, and would prefer Shari law and have the opportunity to
go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better
option", Costello said

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said
those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other
country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that
Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off.
Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want, to
live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can
basically clear off", he said.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying
he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques.

Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some
individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have
experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians."

"However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the
'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that
our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do
I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to
Australia." "However, there are a few things that those who have recently
come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand."
"This idea ofAustralia being a multi-cultural community has served only to
dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. And as Australians, we
have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own
lifestyle."

"This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials
and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom"

"We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese,
Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to
become part of our society .. Learn the language!"
"Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing,
political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian
principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is
certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God
offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your
new home, because God is part of our culture."

"We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is
that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us."

"If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like "A Fair Go", then
you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We
are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really
don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep
your culture, but do not force it on others.

"This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you
every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining,
whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or
Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great
Australian freedom,

'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'."

"If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here.
You asked to be here So accept the country YOU accepted."

Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, Canadians will find the
backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths !

This could apply to all of our Immigrants' both Legal and illegal
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Fat_Tony
FemaleFirst Chatter (200+ Posts)


Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 340


PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:30 am    Post subject: Re: At least one country belives in themselves!!!! Reply with quote

shavenbush wrote:
Australia Now, Canada Tomorrow?????? ENGLAND TOO LATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Excerpts from an on going debate in Australia.

This is true and can be checked at

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/australia.asp

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Shari law were told on Wednesday to
get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head
off potential terror attacks.

A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to
Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John
Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a
crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard,
hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if
they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were
made by parliament "If those are not your values, if you want a country
which has Shari law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you",
he said on National Television.

"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws
governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another Islamic
law that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent
courts, democracy, and would prefer Shari law and have the opportunity to
go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better
option", Costello said

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said
those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other
country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that
Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off.
Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want, to
live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can
basically clear off", he said.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying
he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques.

Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some
individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have
experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians."

"However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the
'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that
our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do
I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to
Australia." "However, there are a few things that those who have recently
come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand."
"This idea ofAustralia being a multi-cultural community has served only to
dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. And as Australians, we
have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own
lifestyle."

"This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials
and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom"

"We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese,
Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to
become part of our society .. Learn the language!"
"Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing,
political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian
principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is
certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God
offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your
new home, because God is part of our culture."

"We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is
that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us."

"If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like "A Fair Go", then
you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We
are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really
don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep
your culture, but do not force it on others.

"This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you
every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining,
whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or
Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great
Australian freedom,

'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'."

"If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here.
You asked to be here So accept the country YOU accepted."

Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, Canadians will find the
backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths !

This could apply to all of our Immigrants' both Legal and illegal


Australia is more advanced than the US on this issue then. I fully support this concept. If you are an immigrant coming to a country, not respecting its laws, values, culture and you wish to undermine it and teach and preach intolerance and hatred, then by all means the host nation has the right to tell you to get your worthless ass on the next plane out of the country.
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THAT_GUEST
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Joined: 18 Jan 2007
Posts: 17121
Location: aiyeeee....dat good pie!

PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:26 am    Post subject: Re: At least one country belives in themselves!!!! Reply with quote

Fat_Tony wrote:
shavenbush wrote:
Australia Now, Canada Tomorrow?????? ENGLAND TOO LATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Excerpts from an on going debate in Australia.

This is true and can be checked at

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/australia.asp

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Shari law were told on Wednesday to
get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head
off potential terror attacks.

A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to
Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John
Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a
crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard,
hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if
they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were
made by parliament "If those are not your values, if you want a country
which has Shari law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you",
he said on National Television.

"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws
governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another Islamic
law that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent
courts, democracy, and would prefer Shari law and have the opportunity to
go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better
option", Costello said

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said
those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other
country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that
Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off.
Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want, to
live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can
basically clear off", he said.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying
he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques.

Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some
individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have
experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians."

"However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the
'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that
our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do
I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to
Australia." "However, there are a few things that those who have recently
come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand."
"This idea ofAustralia being a multi-cultural community has served only to
dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. And as Australians, we
have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own
lifestyle."

"This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials
and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom"

"We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese,
Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to
become part of our society .. Learn the language!"
"Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing,
political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian
principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is
certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God
offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your
new home, because God is part of our culture."

"We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is
that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us."

"If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like "A Fair Go", then
you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We
are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really
don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep
your culture, but do not force it on others.

"This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you
every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining,
whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or
Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great
Australian freedom,

'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'."

"If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here.
You asked to be here So accept the country YOU accepted."

Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, Canadians will find the
backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths !

This could apply to all of our Immigrants' both Legal and illegal


Australia is more advanced than the US on this issue then. I fully support this concept. If you are an immigrant coming to a country, not respecting its laws, values, culture and you wish to undermine it and teach and preach intolerance and hatred, then by all means the host nation has the right to tell you to get your worthless ass on the next plane out of the country.



+1....go Oz!
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Casey55
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Joined: 31 May 2007
Posts: 148


PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Secular states are great!

No guilt for abortions!
No morals!
Homosexuals acting out in front of children.
Liberal agendas that put children and family last!
I wonder when the secualr state will approve man boy lovers since God and his morals are not worth a thing?
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Fat_Tony
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Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 340


PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Casey55 wrote:
Secular states are great!

No guilt for abortions!
No morals!
Homosexuals acting out in front of children.
Liberal agendas that put children and family last!
I wonder when the secualr state will approve man boy lovers since God and his morals are not worth a thing?


Switch the channel off the 700 Club one day and get out in the real world. The whole "this country is going to hell in a bread basket" bullshit dies out years ago. This isn't the "end times" or Revelations, and families are as first as a family makes it.

And there are laws against people acting out sexual in front of children, homosexual or otherwise. They get arrested, go to jail, and end up on a national data base.

And as for God, I won't presume to know if He exists and if so what his plan might be, but honestly, you have to admit, given his track record, it might not be the best thing to be sitting around waiting for Him to do something for you. This country was built on the divine notion that liberty is the cornerstone for our very existence, even in the absence of God. You can have liberty without God, but without liberty, you can be damn sure God will not be allowed. Our liberties allows one to worship how they please--and even believe in no God. Deny one their liberty to their beliefs and what is at risk is every other's rights!
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Casey55
You Go Girl (100+ Posts)


Joined: 31 May 2007
Posts: 148


PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fat_Tony wrote:
Casey55 wrote:
Secular states are great!

No guilt for abortions!
No morals!
Homosexuals acting out in front of children.
Liberal agendas that put children and family last!
I wonder when the secualr state will approve man boy lovers since God and his morals are not worth a thing?


Switch the channel off the 700 Club one day and get out in the real world. The whole "this country is going to hell in a bread basket" bullshit dies out years ago. This isn't the "end times" or Revelations, and families are as first as a family makes it.

And there are laws against people acting out sexual in front of children, homosexual or otherwise. They get arrested, go to jail, and end up on a national data base.

And as for God, I won't presume to know if He exists and if so what his plan might be, but honestly, you have to admit, given his track record, it might not be the best thing to be sitting around waiting for Him to do something for you. This country was built on the divine notion that liberty is the cornerstone for our very existence, even in the absence of God. You can have liberty without God, but without liberty, you can be damn sure God will not be allowed. Our liberties allows one to worship how they please--and even believe in no God. Deny one their liberty to their beliefs and what is at risk is every other's rights!



Just for you...
"He who cannot find a God has made himself one."
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