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Postby Guest on Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:30 am

fizzypops wrote:Well my son is 4, has no sisters but when clothes shopping BEGS me to buy him pink clothes from the girls sections. He doesn't want dresses and skirts but chooses pink trousers and tshirts, he even wants hairbands and stuff (unfortunately he also insists on having his hair cut regularly, so doesn't get the scrunchies he wants :lol: ). I've spoken to him about it but he just likes girls clothes better cos they are prettier and more variety of colours and styles etc than boys clothes.
That said he'll only wear them at home and doesn't want his friends knowing he has pink clothes.


omg :shock:

I absolutely cannot stand this kind of sexist bullcrap. If a girl wanted "boys'" clothes from the boys' section, nobody thinks twice about it do they? In fact when I go shopping for clothes (I'm male btw), there are usually more women than men browsing in the male sections, and making it quite plain that they're buying for themselves!

Jeeeeez, what is the world coming to when a young boy is forced to suffer such crappy and outdated gender stereotypes?

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Postby Scott L. Martinez on Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:04 pm

Just because a mother wishes she had a little girl, doesn't mean she should treat a boy like one.

It's ONLY acceptable for a boy to wear a 'dress' if:

a) It's a kilt,
b) The boy is Scottish.

Otherwise, it's not.

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Postby McMum on Tue May 01, 2007 6:16 pm

It's ONLY acceptable for a boy to wear a 'dress' if:

a) It's a kilt,
b) The boy is Scottish.

Otherwise, it's not.


Scott,

Being Scottish, I feel that I must correct you here:-

a) A boy’s kilt is not a dress.
b) A boy does not have to be Scottish to wear a kilt.

Many Scottish boys (and men) have kilts in their wardrobes, but they are usually only worn on special occasions, such as at weddings or family parties. Some boys (not only in Scotland) participate in Scottish Country Dancing, and they wear kilts for this activity.

A boy’s (or man’s kilt) is a form of skirt (not a dress) specifically designed for males. Unless they are members of pipe bands, and wear a kilt as part of their uniform, women or girls do not wear kilts. Kilts are heavyweight garments, and totally unsuitable for normal girl’s (or women’s) wear. The type of skirt (worn by girls and women) that many refer to as a kilt is in fact a much lighter weight pleated tartan skirt. Real kilts come down to knee level, but tartan skirts can be any length.

Real kilts are very expensive, as they contain many yards (or metres) of heavyweight worsted wool tartan cloth (although some kilts are not tartan). They are custom made for a perfect fit, so a growing boy needs a new kilt as he grows. A well made man’s kilt will last a lifetime, but many boy’s kilts are wasted, as they do not wear them much and grow out of them long before they have got their money’s worth out of them. I have tried (with limited success) to get my son to wear his kilt more often, so that he gets value for money out of it (especially as it was my money that paid for it).

Do not take this as criticism in any way. I am well aware that there are many innocently held misconceptions regarding what kilts are.

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Postby Scott L. Martinez on Tue May 01, 2007 6:51 pm

McMum,

I agree with you.

My former post was not worded completely correctly.

A kilt is a form of ‘skirt’ more than a dress. Although, sometimes the words seem to be used to imply the same thing nowadays.

And, I agree that a boy doesn’t have to be necessarily Scottish, but as you say, doing Scottish activities.

The point I was trying to make was simply that, aside from these circumstances to do with culture and heritage, it’s not very acceptable. And I don’t understand why there are some people here saying that boys should be encouraged to wear dresses – that was all I was really moaning about.

However, I do like Scotland and its traditions, having been their several times.

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Postby Guest on Tue May 01, 2007 7:12 pm

Scott L. Martinez wrote:A kilt is a form of ‘skirt’ more than a dress. Although, sometimes the words seem to be used to imply the same thing nowadays.


... in the mind of idiots maybe.

Scott L. Martinez wrote:And, I agree that a boy doesn’t have to be necessarily Scottish, but as you say, doing Scottish activities.


This is a form of racism. Also, what about other cultures around the world that you have not even heard of where the men also wear skirt-like apparel?

Scott L. Martinez wrote:The point I was trying to make was simply that, aside from these circumstances to do with culture and heritage, it’s not very acceptable.


And where does culture and heritage come from? From the traditions of the day, if they stick. They can change over time, just as many women these days now wear trousers when at one time it was totally offensive and unheard of. Idiot.

Scott L. Martinez wrote:However, I do like Scotland and its traditions, having been their several times.


Wow, you must be, like, a total expert, like.

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Postby Scott L. Martinez on Tue May 01, 2007 7:47 pm

says the idiot with no name.

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Postby Guest on Tue May 01, 2007 7:55 pm

Says the idiot stupid enough to register.

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Postby Scott L. Martinez on Tue May 01, 2007 8:27 pm

to be effectively followed around everywhere I post?

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Postby Guest on Tue May 01, 2007 8:47 pm

Yeah you're such a fount of wisdom and incredible knowledge, who could resist doing that?

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Postby Scott L. Martinez on Tue May 01, 2007 8:54 pm

If you have some issue with me, then spit it out.

But do it somewhere more appropriate, as it is not relevant in this thread.

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Postby Guest on Tue May 01, 2007 8:57 pm

lol :lol:

Actually to be 100% honest I agree with a lot of stuff you say in other threads. Just not this one. And winding up arrogant people like you is a great sport!

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Postby Scott L. Martinez on Tue May 01, 2007 9:01 pm

What exactly am I arrogant about?

And do you seriously think it's acceptable for boys to wear dresses?

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Postby Guest on Tue May 01, 2007 9:29 pm

Obviously you are too arrogant to read/understand my comments earlier.

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Postby Scott L. Martinez on Tue May 01, 2007 10:04 pm

as you were mine, since you have skewed them out of proportion.

I've no further interest in replying here.

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Postby eveyo on Thu May 03, 2007 1:03 am

Scott L. Martinez wrote:I think this thread is very weird.

Who in their right mind encourages a boy to wear girls clothes?

Thats true... but some people like me wernt encouraging it but just saying that its not abnormal

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