How do you feel about Muslims who don'twant to inte

[picard]

I read BBC news article which indicate that the UK is overrun with Islamic radicals. They don't want to integrate into British society at all. They even advocate the conversion of UK into islamic country.

I find this news alarming from across the continent. I am from Canada where the canadian government is making the same mistakes as British by letting in large number of radical muslims into the country.

Do you guy think Britain should expel majority of muslims who dont' want to integrate into the culture?

[underthecover]

absolutely. pisses me right off.I read an article that some of the muslim gangs had set up 'no-go' areas for whites and non muslims,
at the end of the day Britain is supposed to be a multicultural society,

then theres these clerics preaching against England and non islamic way of life-
not to sound to redneck but if they dont like it here then they should F*** off

[picard]

I agree with you wholeheartly. These Muslims are unwilling and unable to adapt to modern secular society. They want to force convert everyone to bow to Islam. Canada has same problem as European counterparts. These clerics advocate violence against everybody.

they don't deserve to stay in UK or Canada. They should be deport back to Saudi Arabia. These people are dam dangerous as the Taliban. It is fatal mistakes for our governments to allow them to enter the country. There is limit to generosity of host country. When these people use their religion to create political upheaval in host country, it is time the government to use force to eject them. I am non-muslim and tired of being political correct in speaking to them. They don't deserve respect of anyone else.

[Cinnamon Revenge]

Absolutely! OUT! And fast.

[Danko]

The problem with some - not all - Muslims is that they live here, are educated here, some born here, enjoying all that the UK offers, yet still place their own demands upon the majority and seek rules, customs and traditions to be changed to suit them.

Sorry, but I wouldn't live in a country that I didn't agree with. I would move out, not try to change it.

[AngelsDecay]

I agree completly...they complain so much about our country so if they don't like it then why stay here? Could it be to do with the fact that they get free national health and every benfit available i wonder? i don't get why the gonverment still let them in...they only use our country to save themselves some money.

What annoys me is that hoodies are banned from most places but they still accept people wearing those veil things which cover far more of someones face than a hoodie....

If we had 'whites only' or 'non mulim only' communities then it would cause an uproar.

[underthecover]

it does annoy me, Its like going to someones house and slagging of the furniture or the hosts cooking! you'd get booted out!

Also the double standard, everyone has to be so considerate to muslims, i mean look at that stupid cartoon, just a joke but they were out burning flags and bombing things!!

[ILWL]

I read BBC news article which indicate that the UK is overrun with Islamic radicals. They don't want to integrate into British society at all. They even advocate the conversion of UK into islamic country.

I find this news alarming from across the continent.

A few points on this:

A) The BBC is well known for it's unbiased / neutral stance on reporting and since it was after the renew of the charter - it would in no way toe the political line coming from the seats of power. Though I must confess that despite the vested interests within this drama - I would have expected the BBC to have used slightly more measured langauge to report on the situation - Overrun is a bit too emotive a word to use and probably belongs more to tabloid 'journalism'

B) Why should people integrate into a society that has hardly been welcoming?

C) They would advocate the conversion of Britain into an Islamic state! - Oh tell you what I am so bothered about this! Good luck in trying to save my soul there! Imagine the conversation - 'Do you want to become a Moslem' / 'For such a big decision I will need to think about that - leave a few details with me and I shall get in touch when I have made my decision! I may be sometime because whilst I like the multiple partners - I do like a drink and if I am not already damned there is no rush!

it does annoy me, Its like going to someones house and slagging of the furniture or the hosts cooking! you'd get booted out!

Guess people's attitude would depend on whether they own or merely rent the house!

Another way of looking at this is to bare in mind that some of the hosts (Our leaders) are a bit overbearing towards the 'guests' (Some of whom have paid to get in) - wonder how many people have gone to a friends house and have had to eat an awful meal they didn't actually ask for and had no reason to expect!

Has anyone heard the one about the ethnic minorities wanting us to tone down christmas (Because it is offensive) Has anyone ever thought where this story come from! I myself wonder who was prepared to entertain this conversation in the first place - possibly an idealist white Liberal with a somewhat patronising streak!

Also the double standard, everyone has to be so considerate to muslims, i mean look at that stupid cartoon, just a joke but they were out burning flags and bombing things!!

Indeed it was a joke and some people need a humour transplant - but again where did the story come from - Wasn't it Denmark! I wonder as to how it entered the public sphere over here!

[Kalel]

These Muslims are unwilling and unable to adapt to modern secular society.

A good attribute IMO.
They put themselves on higher plane of living over the hedonistic desires of a secular society!

Let's face it... you can't argue that a chimpanzee isn't secular!

I for one... know I'm not just a hairless ape!
Are you?

[Girevik]

These Muslims are unwilling and unable to adapt to modern secular society.

A good attribute IMO.
They put themselves on higher plane of living over the hedonistic desires of a secular society!

Let's face it... you can't argue that a chimpanzee isn't secular!

I for one... know I'm not just a hairless ape!
Are you?

Problem is, some of them want to enforce it on the rest of us by any possible means.

THAT is the problem.

[Kalel]

THAT is the problem.

Well... ever think the social woes of society are because there is no one at the wheel?

[ILWL]

THAT is the problem.

Well... ever think the social woes of society are because there is no one at the wheel?

I would say that the woes of society are due to the divine creator being something of an absentee landlord - It is somewhat callous to give us freewill and then see that we get punished for it!

What do you think of that then Kalel?

Personally I don't think that such a divine scientist would really give a stuff whether we prefer to Dance or to Rock - surely such concerns are irrelevant to the fabric of creation. You see what I think we are dealing with on both to all sides of this is the worst aspects of human nature - the whole War on Terror / Jihad thing is neither there to serve the almighty or protect the weak - it is about money and power in it's purest form.

Religon shouldn't get the blame since it is only the distraction for us puppets minipulated by more earthly personalities and concerns!

[Kalel]

THAT is the problem.

Well... ever think the social woes of society are because there is no one at the wheel?

I would say that the woes of society are due to the divine creator being something of an absentee landlord - It is somewhat callous to give us freewill and then see that we get punished for it!

What do you think of that then Kalel?

I think todays society has poor parents that give poor examples of morals!
Religion filled that void!

Don't talk about an absentee anything, to me... that just tells me you are weak and not willing to take the RESPONSABLILTY for your own actions!
That's what seperates adults from children... taking responsability!

[monosodium]

I think todays society has poor parents that give poor examples of morals!
Religion filled that void!

Don't talk about an absentee anything, to me... that just tells me you are weak and not willing to take the RESPONSABLILTY for your own actions!
That's what seperates adults from children... taking responsability!

Kalel - nobody is going to take a lecture on responsibility to someone who hasn't got the hang of basic literacy, especially when they cap-up their own mistakes so we don't have to...

[Kalel]

I think todays society has poor parents that give poor examples of morals!
Religion filled that void!

Don't talk about an absentee anything, to me... that just tells me you are weak and not willing to take the RESPONSABLILTY for your own actions!
That's what seperates adults from children... taking responsability!

Kalel - nobody is going to take a lecture on responsibility to someone who hasn't got the hang of basic literacy, especially when they cap-up their own mistakes so we don't have to...

Fine by me... you can stay out of it if you have nothing constructive to add on the subject.