you can hunt out a fast car that won't cost a bomb to insure......honda civic vtec for example!
Bollocks can you!!!!!!FAST CAR=HIGH INSURENCE!!!!!!!
And i bet you found it realy easy to save for an expensive car when you were 17!You would have to be just plain crazy to spend hundreds of £ on getting your licence and going and buying a cheap run around!Your right,pass your test,save up and when your 25 go get an expensive fast car!
yes - but what is the point of putting body kits on the car that are designed to improve air flow over the car and improve its handling characteristics if the extra weight has slowed the car down to the point where they don't work anyway unless its having its tits ragged of at 60 in 4th gear? stupid air splitters on the front of cars that knock the ground every time it goes over a speed bump! a lowered car so low it grounds out going over a speed bump
the modifications should match the car - a full body kit will do very little for most fast cars. whats it going to do on a shitty 1.1i?! NOTHING!
whats the point in driving anyway? speed really isn't it?!
modify things that suit the car - fatter tyres with the same rolling radius so acceleration isn't affected much but the grip is increased significantly to makeit worth while....uprated suspension and maybe lower the car to a practical height. fit discs on the back - drilled+vented discs if your hard on the brakes, decent tyres, fit an anti roll bar if you aint got one, stiffen up the chassis with strut braces, fit a high quality stereo - but you do not need 10 subs and the 6 amps to power them to get decent sound....fit an induction kit, get rid of the cat, stainless exhaust (but why do you need 2 back boxes on a 1800cc engine? or 10 tail pipes? or a single tail pipe the size of a dust bin?) why fit silly bolt on alloy pedals? just remove the rubber on your pedals? change the gear box for a lower ratio one to improve acceleartion? fit a bigger engine? fit stupid headlights that don't match the car.......check these out. http://www.pug-performance.com/gallery12.htm wouldn't it look better if the lights were the shape as the original glass - what i mean is without all the cheap plastic inbetween. it looks a bodge and they don't fit the car properly. they should have been designed to fit the hole better - maybe all glass like the originals.....they probly cost about £200 or more. i don't know? but what a waste of money isn't it? buying something that looks bodged to fit!
you can hunt out a fast car that won't cost a bomb to insure......honda civic vtec for example!
Bollocks can you!!!!!!FAST CAR=HIGH INSURENCE!!!!!!!
And i bet you found it realy easy to save for an expensive car when you were 17!You would have to be just plain crazy to spend hundreds of £ on getting your licence and going and buying a cheap run around!Your right,pass your test,save up and when your 25 go get an expensive fast car!
Your right,you are ignorant!
fairly easy - yes - My golf driver cost me a grand and £300 to insure.....I worked my ass of for a year to save up working around school/college. passed my test 1st time with very little tuition cos i could drive anyway.
insurance companies don't know how fast 1 car is from another.its all based on repuation and accidents. go on any insurance websites - you will see its cheaper to insure a 1600 mondeo than it is a 998 fiesta. thats because more young drivers drive fiestas and smash them around trees than young mondeo drivers. seek out a car - like the honda civic vtec (1.6-160bhp - a quick car!)) that not alot of young people drive and you will get cheap insurance for a high power car!
what about the guys that pop rivet or glue air scoops on the bonnets to make it look hard core but don't actually make a hole for any airflow to pass through
Dont get me wrong,i hate seeing badly modified cars!But i dont slate any1 for giving it a go!Like i said,work with what you got!Ive been there!First car being a 106 1.0l,and yes it did look liked i had been on supermarket sweep in halfords!But thats the fun of it!You learn!
Majority of truely modified cars were not built for practicality,doesnt make sense but its true!We know there to low and the majority of mods slow it down but there so much more to it!Its the accomplishment and satisfaction of creating something that is yours!Its hard to explain!But most modders do grow up after a while,so do it while your still young with the disposable income!
If you want a laugh check out www.barryboys.co.uk
Even though some of the cars on here dont deserve it!
Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Posts: 1178 Location: End of the World
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 5:59 pm Post subject:
This is something we always run into at my car forums. Its modding, some people don't understand it. Some people just don't like it in general. Some people love imports, some love muscle, some like "rice" as people call it. I see these arguments constantly, and there is no real answer what is better, or what the point is.
People put bodykits on their car so they look good. It doesn't have to look good to anyone else, specially since it is THEIR car. They are the one driving it, so it doesn't matter what other people think. Not all bodykits add weight like you claim. You take off your stock bumpers, skirts, etc and replace them when you do kits. Most kits are made of either fiberglass or Urethein (sp?), so its generally the same weight, or even maybe a little less. When people have intakes in their car, or turbo's, ram-air, etc. Having the more open front end which allows more air to enter, helps keep the car cooler, benefits the intercooler (if there is one), and helps with intakes. Primarily all the kits, spoilers, lights, etc are just for looks.
Now, some people like muscle. Some people just like the aspect of all out engine power and don't care about the looks. You have to look at it from this point of view, whats more worth it, looks, or power that you'll barely ever use unless you are on a track? Horsepower costs money, and for the amount it would take to get an average car up to 400/500hp, you could have you're car pulling in trophy's at car shows just for looks and getting sponsorships. Like I said though, its completely a preference. Me personally, I'm doing a bit of both. Primarily looks, but more power under the hood so my car isn't amoung your average Cavaliers.
Its a never ending argument. There will always be people who consider everyone to be ricers that have kits, exhaust, etc. There will always be muscle people who think their Camaro's, Mustang's, Firebird, etc are "god" of the car world. When it comes down to it, its all a preference.
what about the guys that pop rivet or glue air scoops on the bonnets to make it look hard core but don't actually make a hole for any airflow to pass through
Like a Subaru? You didn't think the hood scoop was functional did you?
I can respect someone wanting their car to look good. I prefer handling and power to pure looks, but if I was young and on a limited budget, I'd choose whatever got a girl to look at me.
Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Posts: 1178 Location: End of the World
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:24 am Post subject:
Uhhh, you are aware that on the Subaru WRX, the hood scoop is meant to help more ait get to the turbo charged engine so it'll possibly stay cooler. . .
On the WRX-STi, the scoop actually helds feed the intercooler which benefits extremely . . .
Uhhh, you are aware that on the Subaru WRX, the hood scoop is meant to help more ait get to the turbo charged engine so it'll possibly stay cooler. . .
On the WRX-STi, the scoop actually helds feed the intercooler which benefits extremely . . .
So how are Subaru scoops pointless?
My hoodscoop is just sheet metal that doesn't connect to the engine compartment at all. I have a outback rather than the WRX.
I'd still check the scoop on the WRX before assuming it is anything but decoration. Most manufacturers feed air for intake and intercooling through the front bumper.. there's more room, it's cooler and there's more pressure there than sitting on top of the engine.
Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Posts: 1178 Location: End of the World
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:50 am Post subject:
Well, you answered your own question technically. The Outback isn't meant to be a performance Subaru. The WRX & WRX-STi are both meant for performance, so their scoops will be functional. Most cars do use the front bumper for air flow, but regardless, anywhere on the front of the car is going to help out.
i have a audi a4 sport recently bought a reiger body kit. i want a slick but a simple look. i rang the insurance company it wil cost me 80 pound extra but if i have an accident it does not get replaced or add value to the car. how is that worked out!!
Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Posts: 1178 Location: End of the World
Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 8:32 pm Post subject:
Of course . . . You're adding extra stuff onto the car. In the event of an accident, they will only replace everything to stock specifications. If you put performance into the car, you'd have to pay extra to have the aftermarket equipment insured, and that costs more too.
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