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What makes a better man?
A son that works and gets his home on his own.
80%
 80%  [ 4 ]
A son that has that responsibility removed by daddy?
20%
 20%  [ 1 ]
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The Colonel
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it'sme wrote:
1) Why do some guests seem to think that if they repeat themselves people will agree with them?

2) What is wrong with acting like a mother?

3) If you don't buy your child a house, and the house prices keep going up so they will never be able to afford one themselves, how is that making them independent?

It all depends on the circumstances really. If you keep giving your child whatever they want, without making them work in any way, then they will never be independent. However, a one-off 'gift' seems to be fine- my parents could never have afforded to buy me a house, but they did buy my first car. It gave me more responsibility, as I then had to maintain the car myself, and it gave me independence from my parents, in that I no longer had to rely on my parents for lifts (no public transport in my parents' area).


Exactly what I've been saying.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Colonel wrote:
it'sme wrote:
1) Why do some guests seem to think that if they repeat themselves people will agree with them?

2) What is wrong with acting like a mother?

3) If you don't buy your child a house, and the house prices keep going up so they will never be able to afford one themselves, how is that making them independent?

It all depends on the circumstances really. If you keep giving your child whatever they want, without making them work in any way, then they will never be independent. However, a one-off 'gift' seems to be fine- my parents could never have afforded to buy me a house, but they did buy my first car. It gave me more responsibility, as I then had to maintain the car myself, and it gave me independence from my parents, in that I no longer had to rely on my parents for lifts (no public transport in my parents' area).


Exactly what I've been saying.


Do you see how myopic your statements are in regards to houses?
Am I to believe there are no more new houses manufactured and sold because the cost, to all, is too prohibitive?

I think not!

Your all classic children of your nanny state.
You have to care for your children like your government cares for you!

Do you not realize a major reason for your childs inability to buy a house is because your child's high taxes pays for 1 in 5 of your neighbors living expenses?

You guys are buried so deep in S*** you can no longer see the S*** you have created!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

. wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
it'sme wrote:
1) Why do some guests seem to think that if they repeat themselves people will agree with them?

2) What is wrong with acting like a mother?

3) If you don't buy your child a house, and the house prices keep going up so they will never be able to afford one themselves, how is that making them independent?

It all depends on the circumstances really. If you keep giving your child whatever they want, without making them work in any way, then they will never be independent. However, a one-off 'gift' seems to be fine- my parents could never have afforded to buy me a house, but they did buy my first car. It gave me more responsibility, as I then had to maintain the car myself, and it gave me independence from my parents, in that I no longer had to rely on my parents for lifts (no public transport in my parents' area).


Exactly what I've been saying.


Do you see how myopic your statements are in regards to houses?
Am I to believe there are no more new houses manufactured and sold because the cost, to all, is too prohibitive?

I think not!

Your all classic children of your nanny state.
You have to care for your children like your government cares for you!

Do you not realize a major reason for your childs inability to buy a house is because your child's high taxes pays for 1 in 5 of your neighbors living expenses?

You guys are buried so deep in S*** you can no longer see the S*** you have created!


You have no idea about UK house prices do you?

How much do you reckon the average bedsit goes for here? £110,000. That's around $220,000. The worst house you can buy is £270,000 roughly $540,000.

Wake up Steve.

How much are they in the US?
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The Colonel
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

. wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
. wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
it'sme wrote:
1) Why do some guests seem to think that if they repeat themselves people will agree with them?

2) What is wrong with acting like a mother?

3) If you don't buy your child a house, and the house prices keep going up so they will never be able to afford one themselves, how is that making them independent?

It all depends on the circumstances really. If you keep giving your child whatever they want, without making them work in any way, then they will never be independent. However, a one-off 'gift' seems to be fine- my parents could never have afforded to buy me a house, but they did buy my first car. It gave me more responsibility, as I then had to maintain the car myself, and it gave me independence from my parents, in that I no longer had to rely on my parents for lifts (no public transport in my parents' area).


Exactly what I've been saying.


Do you see how myopic your statements are in regards to houses?
Am I to believe there are no more new houses manufactured and sold because the cost, to all, is too prohibitive?

I think not!

Your all classic children of your nanny state.
You have to care for your children like your government cares for you!

Do you not realize a major reason for your childs inability to buy a house is because your child's high taxes pays for 1 in 5 of your neighbors living expenses?

You guys are buried so deep in S*** you can no longer see the S*** you have created!


You have no idea about UK house prices do you?

How much do you reckon the average bedsit goes for here? £110,000. That's around $220,000. The worst house you can buy is £270,000 roughly $540,000.

Wake up Steve.

How much are they in the US?


They are expensive here too!
prices went through the roof a few years ago!
Houses here basically doubled in price.

But that's life!
You don't make responsible adults by giving them things!
You make responsible adults by having them EARN it themselves!

But you live in a society where pregnant girls get free housing!
So you have no concept what it means to be a REAL MAN and pay your own way!


We live in a society where some people get handouts from the state all there lives, where as the others are hard working and taxed beyond their means.

You seem to be forgetting that 4 out 5 people in the UK do not live of the state but pay their own way from birth to death.

I'm not arguing with you, I've shown that my method will work in achieving its desired aims.

If you want to leave your kids with nothing thats up to you. My method will work just fine.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Colonel wrote:


You seem to be forgetting that 4 out 5 people in the UK do not live of the state but pay their own way from birth to death.


Your taxes feed 20% of the population!!!!

How can I become a citizen/SLACKER over there???
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

. wrote:
The Colonel wrote:


You seem to be forgetting that 4 out 5 people in the UK do not live of the state but pay their own way from birth to death.


Your taxes feed 20% of the population!!!!

How can I become a citizen/SLACKER over there???


DON'T YOU THINK I KNOW THAT?!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Colonel wrote:
. wrote:
The Colonel wrote:


You seem to be forgetting that 4 out 5 people in the UK do not live of the state but pay their own way from birth to death.


Your taxes feed 20% of the population!!!!

How can I become a citizen/SLACKER over there???


DON'T YOU THINK I KNOW THAT?!


Good.
Understand your just one step up over the government when it comes to coddling its citizens!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

. wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
. wrote:
The Colonel wrote:


You seem to be forgetting that 4 out 5 people in the UK do not live of the state but pay their own way from birth to death.


Your taxes feed 20% of the population!!!!

How can I become a citizen/SLACKER over there???


DON'T YOU THINK I KNOW THAT?!


Good.
Understand your just one step up over the government when it comes to coddling its citizens!


I take that back!
Your the EQUAL of your government NANNY state!
For your government gives free housing to girls that get knocked up!

That makes all your boys GIRLS!
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The Colonel
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

. wrote:
. wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
. wrote:
The Colonel wrote:


You seem to be forgetting that 4 out 5 people in the UK do not live of the state but pay their own way from birth to death.


Your taxes feed 20% of the population!!!!

How can I become a citizen/SLACKER over there???


DON'T YOU THINK I KNOW THAT?!


Good.
Understand your just one step up over the government when it comes to coddling its citizens!


I take that back!
Your the EQUAL of your government NANNY state!
For your government gives free housing to girls that get knocked up!

That makes all your boys GIRLS!


What would you rather: I buy them homes or the state provides them with them?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Colonel wrote:

What would you rather: I buy them homes or the state provides them with them?


Neither.
Giving them houses makes you an extension of your welfare state.

in·de·pen·dence (ĭn'dĭ-pĕn'dəns) pronunciation
n.

1. The state or quality of being independent.
2. Archaic. Sufficient income for comfortable self-support; a competence.



Competence, I like that word!
How can your sons learn what that means when you fear they can not get a house on their own?
Your gift of a house is a statement of what you think of their competence!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

. wrote:
The Colonel wrote:

What would you rather: I buy them homes or the state provides them with them?


Neither.
Giving them houses makes you an extension of your welfare state.

in·de·pen·dence (ĭn'dĭ-pĕn'dəns) pronunciation
n.

1. The state or quality of being independent.
2. Archaic. Sufficient income for comfortable self-support; a competence.



Competence, I like that word!
How can your sons learn what that means when you fear they can not get a house on their own?
Your gift of a house is a statement of what you think of their competence!


They can get a home, but I'm removing the waiting.

I will be interested to see what further investments they make.

I expect each of my sons to have at least another home they have bought themselves within ten years of leaving university (using their salaries and through them renting out properties.

I expect each of my kids to have £600,000 by the time they are 28.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colonel EMASCULATED wrote:
. wrote:
Colonel EMASCULATED wrote:

What would you rather: I buy them homes or the state provides them with them?


Neither.
Giving them houses makes you an extension of your welfare state.

in·de·pen·dence (ĭn'dĭ-pĕn'dəns) pronunciation
n.

1. The state or quality of being independent.
2. Archaic. Sufficient income for comfortable self-support; a competence.



Competence, I like that word!
How can your sons learn what that means when you fear they can not get a house on their own?
Your gift of a house is a statement of what you think of their competence!


They can get a home, but I'm removing the waiting.

I will be interested to see what further investments they make.

I expect each of my sons to have at least another home they have bought themselves within ten years of leaving university (using their salaries and through them renting out properties.

I expect each of my kids to have £600,000 by the time they are 28.


You really have no clue. Do you?
You may have been a colonel.
but you were never a leader of men!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

. wrote:
Colonel EMASCULATED wrote:
. wrote:
Colonel EMASCULATED wrote:

What would you rather: I buy them homes or the state provides them with them?


Neither.
Giving them houses makes you an extension of your welfare state.

in·de·pen·dence (ĭn'dĭ-pĕn'dəns) pronunciation
n.

1. The state or quality of being independent.
2. Archaic. Sufficient income for comfortable self-support; a competence.



Competence, I like that word!
How can your sons learn what that means when you fear they can not get a house on their own?
Your gift of a house is a statement of what you think of their competence!


They can get a home, but I'm removing the waiting.

I will be interested to see what further investments they make.

I expect each of my sons to have at least another home they have bought themselves within ten years of leaving university (using their salaries and through them renting out properties.

I expect each of my kids to have £600,000 by the time they are 28.


You really have no clue. Do you?
You may have been a colonel.
but you were never a leader of men!


It is you that does not have a clue.

I have stated clearly how my method will make them responsible and enable them to further invest on their own.

A leader of men does not throw a man to the wolves. A leader of men equips his men for battle.

My men, therefore, will have the greater chance of success with the skills and resources to achieve it.

I run a business Steve - I have worked everything out carefully.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

. wrote:
Steve, the right-wing homophobic t*** and all round nasty bit of work wrote:

My men, therefore, will have the greater chance of success with the skills and resources to achieve it.



No.
Your skipping a lesson on how one makes it in life on his own.


And they will! I won't always be around for them and I won't be doing everything for them! They will learn how to make the most of what they have been given.

I'm surprised you can't see that.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Colonel, the so far to the left has no clue he's emasculated wrote:
. wrote:
Steve, the right-wing homophobic t*** and all round nasty bit of work wrote:

My men, therefore, will have the greater chance of success with the skills and resources to achieve it.



No.
Your skipping a lesson on how one makes it in life on his own.


And they will! I won't always be around for them and I won't be doing everything for them! They will learn how to make the most of what they have been given.

I'm surprised you can't see that.


I can.
Your not officer material.
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