Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: How does a father make his son(s) a man?
Fred75 wrote:
Does he do it by buying his son a house or by making his son work for everything he has?
Hello Steve!
It's nice having a thread devoted to me. Many thanks.
You are missing a very important aspect. By buying my son’s a home each I will give them financial security from an early age. This will mean that they do not have to delay starting a family if they wish and are not constrained by a lack of capital in any other respect.
However, they will still have to care for their home, pay for it and so on. Indeed, former PM Margaret Thatcher stated “With property comes responsibility”. Further, with their own salaries, my children will be able to further invest in property, business, stocks and shares or whatever they wish.
Therefore, it makes them no less responsible, I would argue more so. Few teenagers will own a property and will know how to care for it. They will have to learn (a bit like being thrown in at the deep end of a swimming pool). With their future finances they will be able to build upon this responsibility and do as they wish, where they wish, and when they wish.
It is really very simple. There is no point in my children struggling for years to buy a home and wasting a large proportion of their lives due to it. I give them the opportunity to maximise their lives, their finances and their responsibilities.
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: How does a father make his son(s) a man?
The Colonel wrote:
You are missing a very important aspect. By buying my son’s a home each I will give them financial security from an early age. This will mean that they do not have to delay starting a family if they wish and are not constrained by a lack of capital in any other respect.
However, they will still have to care for their home, pay for it and so on. Indeed, former PM Margaret Thatcher stated “With property comes responsibility”. Further, with their own salaries, my children will be able to further invest in property, business, stocks and shares or whatever they wish.
Therefore, it makes them no less responsible, I would argue more so. Few teenagers will own a property and will know how to care for it. They will have to learn (a bit like being thrown in at the deep end of a swimming pool). With their future finances they will be able to build upon this responsibility and do as they wish, where they wish, and when they wish.
It is really very simple. There is no point in my children struggling for years to buy a home and wasting a large proportion of their lives due to it. I give them the opportunity to maximise their lives, their finances and their responsibilities.
It's the struggle that makes them stronger.
Quit acting like their mother and make men out of your boys!
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:28 pm Post subject: Re: How does a father make his son(s) a man?
. wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
You are missing a very important aspect. By buying my son’s a home each I will give them financial security from an early age. This will mean that they do not have to delay starting a family if they wish and are not constrained by a lack of capital in any other respect.
However, they will still have to care for their home, pay for it and so on. Indeed, former PM Margaret Thatcher stated “With property comes responsibility”. Further, with their own salaries, my children will be able to further invest in property, business, stocks and shares or whatever they wish.
Therefore, it makes them no less responsible, I would argue more so. Few teenagers will own a property and will know how to care for it. They will have to learn (a bit like being thrown in at the deep end of a swimming pool). With their future finances they will be able to build upon this responsibility and do as they wish, where they wish, and when they wish.
It is really very simple. There is no point in my children struggling for years to buy a home and wasting a large proportion of their lives due to it. I give them the opportunity to maximise their lives, their finances and their responsibilities.
It's the struggle that makes them stronger.
Quit acting like their mother and make men out of your boys!
Why not log in Steve?
You still don't get it - they will struggle (to earn a wage, to care and pay for their homes, to raise a family and to use their remaining finances elsewhere.) They will learn the same, if not better, just in a different way.
All my boys are men. As a military man I demand a lot of people and only the best will do. Perhaps I demand too much of my boys, but all of them have made me very proud already and I'm sure that will continue.
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: How does a father make his son(s) a man?
The Colonel wrote:
You still don't get it - they will struggle (to earn a wage, to care and pay for their homes, to raise a family and to use their remaining finances elsewhere.) They will learn the same, if not better, just in a different way.
All my boys are men. As a military man I demand a lot of people and only the best will do. Perhaps I demand too much of my boys, but all of them have made me very proud already and I'm sure that will continue.
Quit acting like their mother!
Time to let go of their hands so they can become more of a "self made man"!
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: How does a father make his son(s) a man?
. wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
You still don't get it - they will struggle (to earn a wage, to care and pay for their homes, to raise a family and to use their remaining finances elsewhere.) They will learn the same, if not better, just in a different way.
All my boys are men. As a military man I demand a lot of people and only the best will do. Perhaps I demand too much of my boys, but all of them have made me very proud already and I'm sure that will continue.
Quit acting like their mother!
Time to let go of their hands so they can become more of a "self made man"!
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:01 pm Post subject: Re: How does a father make his son(s) a man?
[quote="noodles"]
. wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
You still don't get it - they will struggle (to earn a wage, to care and pay for their homes, to raise a family and to use their remaining finances elsewhere.) They will learn the same, if not better, just in a different way.
All my boys are men. As a military man I demand a lot of people and only the best will do. Perhaps I demand too much of my boys, but all of them have made me very proud already and I'm sure that will continue.
Quit acting like their mother!
Time to let go of their hands so they can become more of a "self made man"!
Can you not cut your umbilical cord?
I think the problem here is how you define a man steve and how you 'expect' the entire population to think as you do.
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: How does a father make his son(s) a man?
[quote="noodles"]
noodles wrote:
. wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
You still don't get it - they will struggle (to earn a wage, to care and pay for their homes, to raise a family and to use their remaining finances elsewhere.) They will learn the same, if not better, just in a different way.
All my boys are men. As a military man I demand a lot of people and only the best will do. Perhaps I demand too much of my boys, but all of them have made me very proud already and I'm sure that will continue.
Quit acting like their mother!
Time to let go of their hands so they can become more of a "self made man"!
Can you not cut your umbilical cord?
I think the problem here is how you define a man steve and how you 'expect' the entire population to think as you do.
We all know your agenda Noodles!
You want validation of fatherless homes so you and your lesbian lover can raise children with no men in the house.
Secondly.... your not a man... even though you may dress like one.
So be quiet!
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: How does a father make his son(s) a man?
[quote="."]
noodles wrote:
noodles wrote:
. wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
You still don't get it - they will struggle (to earn a wage, to care and pay for their homes, to raise a family and to use their remaining finances elsewhere.) They will learn the same, if not better, just in a different way.
All my boys are men. As a military man I demand a lot of people and only the best will do. Perhaps I demand too much of my boys, but all of them have made me very proud already and I'm sure that will continue.
Quit acting like their mother!
Time to let go of their hands so they can become more of a "self made man"!
Can you not cut your umbilical cord?
I think the problem here is how you define a man steve and how you 'expect' the entire population to think as you do.
We all know your agenda Noodles!
You want validation of fatherless homes so you and your lesbian lover can raise children with no men in the house.
Secondly.... your not a man... even though you may dress like one.
So be quiet!
oh and i forgot to add in my last post......and the totaly misinterpretation of everyone else's posts and attitudes
I make choices for myself - i dont validate 'anything' for the entire population. As for how I dress.......what a shining example of your assuming mind.
Your only truth is that I am not a man - correct, well observed you clever clever man.
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: How does a father make his son(s) a man?
[quote="."]
. wrote:
noodles wrote:
noodles wrote:
. wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
You still don't get it - they will struggle (to earn a wage, to care and pay for their homes, to raise a family and to use their remaining finances elsewhere.) They will learn the same, if not better, just in a different way.
All my boys are men. As a military man I demand a lot of people and only the best will do. Perhaps I demand too much of my boys, but all of them have made me very proud already and I'm sure that will continue.
Quit acting like their mother!
Time to let go of their hands so they can become more of a "self made man"!
Can you not cut your umbilical cord?
I think the problem here is how you define a man steve and how you 'expect' the entire population to think as you do.
We all know your agenda Noodles!
You want validation of fatherless homes so you and your lesbian lover can raise children with no men in the house.
Secondly.... your not a man... even though you may dress like one.
So be quiet!
oh and i forgot to add in my last post......and the total misinterpretation of everyone else's posts and attitudes
I make choices for myself - i dont validate 'anything' for the entire population. As for how I dress.......what a shining example of your assuming mind.
Your only truth is that I am not a man - correct, well observed you clever clever man.
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject: Re: How does a father make his son(s) a man?
Noodles, Lesbian that needs no fathers in the house to raise children wrote:
. wrote:
. wrote:
noodles wrote:
noodles wrote:
. wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
You still don't get it - they will struggle (to earn a wage, to care and pay for their homes, to raise a family and to use their remaining finances elsewhere.) They will learn the same, if not better, just in a different way.
All my boys are men. As a military man I demand a lot of people and only the best will do. Perhaps I demand too much of my boys, but all of them have made me very proud already and I'm sure that will continue.
Quit acting like their mother!
Time to let go of their hands so they can become more of a "self made man"!
Can you not cut your umbilical cord?
I think the problem here is how you define a man steve and how you 'expect' the entire population to think as you do.
We all know your agenda Noodles!
You want validation of fatherless homes so you and your lesbian lover can raise children with no men in the house.
Secondly.... your not a man... even though you may dress like one.
So be quiet!
oh and i forgot to add in my last post......and the total misinterpretation of everyone else's posts and attitudes
I make choices for myself - i dont validate 'anything' for the entire population. As for how I dress.......what a shining example of your assuming mind.
.
No Noodles!
You do validate it for the rest by example.
And you most certainly will validate it for the children you raise in your fatherless home!
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: How does a father make his son(s) a man?
. wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
You still don't get it - they will struggle (to earn a wage, to care and pay for their homes, to raise a family and to use their remaining finances elsewhere.) They will learn the same, if not better, just in a different way.
All my boys are men. As a military man I demand a lot of people and only the best will do. Perhaps I demand too much of my boys, but all of them have made me very proud already and I'm sure that will continue.
Quit acting like their mother!
Time to let go of their hands so they can become more of a "self made man"!
Can you not cut your umbilical cord?
I wouldn't expect someone with little understanding of finances (in a UK context) to understand.
1) Why do some guests seem to think that if they repeat themselves people will agree with them?
2) What is wrong with acting like a mother?
3) If you don't buy your child a house, and the house prices keep going up so they will never be able to afford one themselves, how is that making them independent?
It all depends on the circumstances really. If you keep giving your child whatever they want, without making them work in any way, then they will never be independent. However, a one-off 'gift' seems to be fine- my parents could never have afforded to buy me a house, but they did buy my first car. It gave me more responsibility, as I then had to maintain the car myself, and it gave me independence from my parents, in that I no longer had to rely on my parents for lifts (no public transport in my parents' area).
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