well, Iraq is lauded as the textbook example of how NOT to go about things.
We blasted them to kingdom come, and obliterated the existing regime with flying success. But we also failed to account for what needed to happen afterwards to set up a proper stable governing body. And in many ways, that's actually even worse then saddam. At least before they know who to look to or be watchful of. Now there is less and less guarantee as to who to look to for stability and leadership and even less guarantee as who will be their subjugators.
Yeah, but hindsite is 20-20. We thought that we would be able to establish a peaceful democracy as easy as 1-2-3, and we learned thats its a lot harder and more complicated then that.
Well, Bush was wrong. We all were. but I just can't stand it when libs claim "Bush lied soldiers died." Nobody can prove that Bush lied. its wishful thinking. they just want to get revenge for what happened to Clinton in 1998.
Sounds good. After all, Keith olbermann continues to laugh at Bill O Reilly while O Reilly continues to destroy him in the ratings department. Heck, all of MSNBC continues to laugh at Fox news while Fox News destroys them in the ratings department.
Sounds good. After all, Keith olbermann continues to laugh at Bill O Reilly while O Reilly continues to destroy him in the ratings department. Heck, all of MSNBC continues to laugh at Fox news while Fox News destroys them in the ratings department.
Indeed. As Matt Groening once said, "50 million smokers can't be wrong".
Sounds good. After all, Keith olbermann continues to laugh at Bill O Reilly while O Reilly continues to destroy him in the ratings department. Heck, all of MSNBC continues to laugh at Fox news while Fox News destroys them in the ratings department.
Indeed. As Matt Groening once said, "50 million smokers can't be wrong".
Ha...ha ha...ha ha ha! Your funny!
is there anybody out there who can prove that bush lied?
Joined: 30 Apr 2004 Posts: 27756 Location: Kentucky , USA
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:15 pm Post subject:
Blond Adult Girl wrote:
mogadishu wrote:
I'm going to continue laughing at you.
Sounds good. After all, Keith olbermann continues to laugh at Bill O Reilly while O Reilly continues to destroy him in the ratings department. Heck, all of MSNBC continues to laugh at Fox news while Fox News destroys them in the ratings department.
Not really true BAG .......................
People don't watch Fox Noise channel for news but too be entertained .Just like with MTV( at least when they had music ) , it's really nothing more then radio on TV and can't be compared to REAL TV news channels like CNN & MSNBC.
ALSO have heard that Fox's ratings are falling at nite while those of MSNBC are really growing ...............
I have no doupt liek all grifters that old nazi rupert murdoch laffs at any regular person who believes his channel , seeing them as falling for his self serving nonsense pro-rich , pro-war , pro-israel and anti-people proaganda .
Sounds good. After all, Keith olbermann continues to laugh at Bill O Reilly while O Reilly continues to destroy him in the ratings department. Heck, all of MSNBC continues to laugh at Fox news while Fox News destroys them in the ratings department.
Not really true BAG .......................
People don't watch Fox Noise channel for news but too be entertained .Just like with MTV( at least when they had music ) , it's really nothing more then radio on TV and can't be compared to REAL TV news channels like CNN & MSNBC.
ALSO have heard that Fox's ratings are falling at nite while those of MSNBC are really growing ...............
I have no doupt liek all grifters that old nazi rupert murdoch laffs at any regular person who believes his channel , seeing them as falling for his self serving nonsense pro-rich , pro-war , pro-israel and anti-people proaganda .
You can believe whatever you want about Fox News lena, but let me ask you this: why do you say "pro-rich" all the time? what exactly do you mean by "pro-rich"?
I understand what you mean by saying "pro-war and pro isreal," as I fall under both those categorties, but "pro-rich"? Sounds to me like you're an "anti tax-cut" person.
Joined: 30 Apr 2004 Posts: 27756 Location: Kentucky , USA
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:39 am Post subject:
They can cut all the taxes they want ........................
The Fox noise channel , the Republicans , the comedians who pretend to be serious political commentators on the radio like rush and ollie all are pro rich , anti-the rest of us ................
Like...............
Ending Social Security so rich people who don't need it don't have to pay those taxes...............
Giving rich people and corporations owned by rich people big tax cuts so they have even more money ..................
Being against health care ,extended unemployment insurance , aid to education , money for students ,and national health care since the rich wud have to pay more taxes..............
Being anti-union and pro -amnesty to drive down wages so the rich will again be richer ...............
It's all our country , not just the rich who can make the law.........................
Ending Social Security so rich people who don't need it don't have to pay those taxes...............Since when are they trying to end social security?
Giving rich people and corporations owned by rich people big tax cuts so they have even more money ..................tax cuts are for everyone, not just rich people. They may benefit rich people more them middle class people, but thats only because of the laws of American economics.
Being against health care ,extended unemployment insurance , aid to education , money for students ,and national health care since the rich wud have to pay more taxes..............its not the rich's fault that so many Americans are lazy and don't want to work. They pay far more taxes then they need to (the wealthiest 50% pay 97% of the nations taxes, and the wealthiest 15% PAY 75% OF THE TAXES). That is socialism, and it is horrible. Communism is only one step ahead.
Being anti-union and pro -amnesty to drive down wages so the rich will again be richer ...............everybody in Washington is pro-Amnesty, and anti union? Unions were needed 70 years ago, but now they've gotten too fat and happy. They've demanded so much that businesses are just like "screw it, we're going to move to places where people are happy with half of the wages we would shell out in America."
It's all our country , not just the rich who can make the law.........................
Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 12147 Location: North Virginia, USA
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:13 pm Post subject:
Blond Adult Girl wrote:
Lena wrote:
Ending Social Security so rich people who don't need it don't have to pay those taxes...............Since when are they trying to end social security?
Giving rich people and corporations owned by rich people big tax cuts so they have even more money ..................tax cuts are for everyone, not just rich people. They may benefit rich people more them middle class people, but thats only because of the laws of American economics.
Being against health care ,extended unemployment insurance , aid to education , money for students ,and national health care since the rich wud have to pay more taxes..............its not the rich's fault that so many Americans are lazy and don't want to work. They pay far more taxes then they need to (the wealthiest 50% pay 97% of the nations taxes, and the wealthiest 15% PAY 75% OF THE TAXES). That is socialism, and it is horrible. Communism is only one step ahead.
Being anti-union and pro -amnesty to drive down wages so the rich will again be richer ...............everybody in Washington is pro-Amnesty, and anti union? Unions were needed 70 years ago, but now they've gotten too fat and happy. They've demanded so much that businesses are just like "screw it, we're going to move to places where people are happy with half of the wages we would shell out in America."
It's all our country , not just the rich who can make the law.........................
edit: done some research.
I'm going to go ahead and guess that you got your statistics from Rush Limaugh's website, since I found the same statistics. It checks out with the IRS data, at least in a raw sense.
However, I also found another source that includes not just individual, but corporate tax as well into the analysis. This includes the very popular use of the corporate tax shelter, which, like it or not, clearly favors those in control of the companies.
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