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eric_gray2006 FemaleFirst Regular (50+ Posts)
Joined: 17 May 2007 Posts: 56 Location: America
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 3:14 am Post subject: Who do u think will take the white house in 08 |
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| Obama because of his universal health plan |
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Blond Adult Girl FemaleFirst Grand Master (1000+ Posts)

Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 2527
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:58 am Post subject: |
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I don't know who WILL...
...but i HOPE Mitt Romney does.
BTW, univerals health care is a recipe for disaster. |
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ILWL FemaleFirst Guru

Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 3181 Location: (Grassy) Knowle
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:42 am Post subject: |
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Well actually I have decided it will be us Brits ala 1812  |
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Gladys FemaleFirst Senior Member (500+ Posts)

Joined: 08 May 2005 Posts: 833 Location: Lancashire
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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Tony Blair.
Tongue in cheek lol. |
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MM6 FemaleFirst Guru

Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 6879
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| ...but i HOPE Mitt Romney does. |
Romney is a Mormon. That will be his downfall. So far he's tried to follow in the steps of other Massachusetts politicians and "pull a John Kennedy," by saying his personal faith is irrelevant to his qualifications for office. Thats a total nonstarter. Politicians in the US and especially presidential candidates are virtually ordered to talk openly about their religious views [ironically in Romneys case thanks largely to Republicans]. There is no way a Republican, especially in a GOP primary, can avoid the issue-if for no other reason than the press won't let them. Plus the Evangelical voter base likens mormonisn nearer to a cult than a religion. He wont get any votes from that quarter. |
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THAT_GUEST FemaleFirst Guru

Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 17121 Location: aiyeeee....dat good pie!
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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MM6...welcome back! Good to see you.
I'm hesitant to say we can hardly do worse than we have over the last eight years....I am continuously being surprised at how low our elected leaders can go intellectually. The problem is, Bush is a puppet, and the real evil genius is Cheney. |
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MM6 FemaleFirst Guru

Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 6879
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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MM6...welcome back! Good to see you.
I'm hesitant to say we can hardly do worse than we have over the last eight years....I am continuously being surprised at how low our elected leaders can go intellectually. The problem is, Bush is a puppet, and the real evil genius is Cheney. |
Thanks dear heart, I pop in now and again. To check everyone's ok.  |
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Blond Adult Girl FemaleFirst Grand Master (1000+ Posts)

Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 2527
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| MM6 wrote: |
| Blond Adult Girl wrote: |
| ...but i HOPE Mitt Romney does. |
Romney is a Mormon. That will be his downfall. So far he's tried to follow in the steps of other Massachusetts politicians and "pull a John Kennedy," by saying his personal faith is irrelevant to his qualifications for office. Thats a total nonstarter. Politicians in the US and especially presidential candidates are virtually ordered to talk openly about their religious views [ironically in Romneys case thanks largely to Republicans]. There is no way a Republican, especially in a GOP primary, can avoid the issue-if for no other reason than the press won't let them. Plus the Evangelical voter base likens mormonisn nearer to a cult than a religion. He wont get any votes from that quarter. |
Like i said, I don't know if he WILL win, but I HOPE he does.
You're right, his religion will hurt him. I think that his religion should be irrelevant, but nonetheless, he's going to be put under the microscope for it-especially considering he's a conservative.
JFK couldn't avoid the religious scrutiny, and neither will Romney. |
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myron myron FemaleFirst Guru

Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 5834
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| Rudolph Giuliani, especially if John McCain is his running mate. |
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Blond Adult Girl FemaleFirst Grand Master (1000+ Posts)

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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Rudolph Giuliani, especially if John McCain is his running mate. |
I'm cool with Giuliani if he changes his stance on gun control, but McCain? No frickin way! His will to fight terrorism is no different then any of the democratic canidates: it's spineless.  |
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Lena FemaleFirst Guru

Joined: 30 Apr 2004 Posts: 28594 Location: Kentucky , USA
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After 8 years of the over grown spoiled rich kid & one time town drunk of Crawford Texas with his religiosity , war mongering , and head up his ass idea he's always right all I want is a grown up !
We need health care , gun control , immigration control from Mexico , aid to education , something done about job loss abroad ,and some maturity in the war on terror . |
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THAT_GUEST FemaleFirst Guru

Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 17121 Location: aiyeeee....dat good pie!
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:24 am Post subject: |
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| Lena wrote: |
After 8 years of the over grown spoiled rich kid & one time town drunk of Crawford Texas with his religiosity , war mongering , and head up his ass idea he's always right all I want is a grown up !
We need health care , gun control , immigration control from Mexico , aid to education , something done about job loss abroad ,and some maturity in the war on terror . |
We also need border control on Canada. You'd be shocked to see how many "questionables" (my own opinion) come in from the northern border, and there is currently only a tenth of the border personnel covering it than is the Mexican border. I like the idea of military armor and artillery, but that's me.
I would also favor 100% tariffs on any products being brought into the US by companies that have eliminated jobs here to go to third world labor markets. See how they like PAYING to do business here at a rate that makes the US wage seem like a dime store spree. |
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Stone_Ghost FemaleFirst Regular (50+ Posts)
Joined: 30 May 2006 Posts: 98 Location: Nevada, USA
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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It's always the same. you win the middle (the moderates not ideologically in lock step with either the left or the right) and you win the election. Bush and his cronies and their constant scandals have ripped up a strong relationship with said moderates from '00-'02, they got a pass in '04 because we don't like to change horses in a war, and because they were able to reshape the image of Kerry effectively.
I can't stand romney, i'm not a fan of Hillary, I used to like McCain but have lost respect for him since he cozied back up to bush after Bush beat him with a race baiting campaign in the South 8 years ago, and now his courtship of the religious right to broaden his base has turned me off completely.
I don't think Hillary can win. So it will be interesting. Hopefully Obama can get elected w/o much experience much like Bush, if he has the goods and smarts unlike Bush.
I do agree with Blonde Adult Girl in one fashion though and that's that it is essential for the dems to fight the war on terror (what a stupid, nebulous name that is) if they sweep in '08 and fight it hard. The right and republicans continue to use the "left are pantywaists in war times" argument as a cudgel to beat the piss out of the dems in elections in trying times. To take that blunt intstrument out of their hands the left will need to remind the nation that it was they, rather than republicans, who guided America through the last shooting war of truly global consequence 60+ years ago. Unfortunately the American Chamberlin contingent of "Peace in Our Time" at any cost has held the dems hostage ever since the dems helped use them to oust Nixon/Ford (with Nixon's help).
Win the moderates, then prosecute an effective war in Afghanistan against the resurgent Taliban, and solve to the best of our ability the horrible disaster that is Iraq and the Dem's can win twofold, and stomp for good the toad's "Permanent Majority" farce. That's the goal. Hopefully it's doable. This nation is at its best when it is united, but also has a split power base in the executive, legislative and judicial branches. Stashing the court with idiotic strict constructionists has already suggested a turn towards an intellectually bankrupt antiquity in the judicial branch, one can only hope that whatever is to come in '08, brings stability, and sound government in the future with a blend of the right ideas of the republicans and dems, and less of the aggrandizement that comes from too much power in the hands of either side. |
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monosodium FemaleFirst Guru

Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Posts: 5766 Location: In UR base snifin all UR pantys
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:15 am Post subject: |
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The Queen should take over in '08 revoking the declaration of independence on the grounds that you yankees can't use their freedom and democracy responsibly then they shouldn't be allowed to have it...
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80sDiva FemaleFirst Chatter (200+ Posts)
Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 233 Location: Houston, Texas, USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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Well actually I have decided it will be us Brits ala 1812  |
I'd like to see you try! And I'll show you what an old fashioned Texas ass-kicking looks like!
(Just teasing back at ya!) |
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