Immorality and the twisting of the human Rights Concept!

[ILWL]

Are Human beings entitled to rights - if so what should they be and how far should these stretch?

At some point in the future - people are going to need perhaps a conversation as to the nature and scope of rights!

Personally I seriously fear for the future when the concept of human rights seems to be scapegoated - when the problem really lies with the lack of common sense applied to a particular situation. It really gets to me how the media / politicians etc cry foul when some unpleasant person has won somekind of concession on the basis of human rights legislation - and instead of attacking the latter of the law - it seems that they are attacking the spirit of it!

At the other end of the scale - the human rights concept is used as a trojan horse to put a humanitarian facade on varied dastardly deeds conducting by Western Governments/corporations!

Any comments on this!

[tamachant]

I think us Humans have far too many rights.

When a robber can sue the person, who's house he was robbing, because he got injured whilst doing so, our human right have gone to Sh*T.

Do you know our prisioners have the right to vote in the elections, but do not have the right to refuse the AZT drugs ?

And all this nonsense is schools where children can no longer be punished, is rediculous. Makes the life of a teacher impossible, soon we will have no good teachers left.

Those are just some of things that make me mad when it comes to "Rights"

When one breaks the Law, they should loose the luxury that is "Human Rights".

[ILWL]

[tamachant]

Agreed

But I think its too late top solve the problem ?

[ILWL]

I don't think it would be neccesarily too late - if only people could drive somekind of concensus as to what human rights actually mean; as opposed to relying on the connotations thrown up by those stories the media spin to find a definition.

I would expect that everyone here would believe in human rights in some shape or form - the trouble is people will have slightly different concepts based around their personal realities - agreement / consensus would have to be reached through sorting the more overly indulgent ones with the right and imperative to dignity!

What interests me these days is how people are perhaps conditioned to reject the notion of a social contract through linguistic minipulation like this!

[ILWL]

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[Winky89]

Pissing people off on this thread too are we kalel?

What confuses me is that just a second ago you told me it was the woman's fault for having a child, now you're saying the men should treasure the children as they are our legacy even though you condemned the fact that men dont give a damn

[ILWL]

[tamachant]

Hey lets not worry anymore, the truth is that the Earth is not going to around all that much longer. The way things are going there wont be a future generation, then we can all go to heven or hell, wherever we each belong.

[noodles]

Kalel wrote:

Take, for instance, this post... http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=130190 Here we have N A M B L A (a pedahile group) within the gay's and not one person has had a remark about it! Is that because the homosexuals really want access to the kids? And how come heterosexual parents here are not outraged that their fellow homosexual FF members are not outraged by being associated with that pedaphile group? And the latter, is a classic example where no one here wants to offend others! Screw the fact that children pay the price! That's what happens when you remove morals and put the needs of one before the needs of society (children get molested because no one say's it's wrong)! You have "observers" instead of people of character that speak up about what is wrong!

I beginning to seriously worry about you and obsession for advertising this organisation. Your need to talk about this subject and persistence at trying to engage others into it is actually quite disturbing. Even more distrubing than that is peoples obvious distaste in entering this subject with you seems to make you more persistent - maybe you need some help? That or castration?

[JollyGiant]

The concept of Human Rights is a good thing, it should provide a moral framework which we all aspire to. The problem lies with the current Human Rights legislation and how it applies in practice. It's too vague, and open to interpretation.

In my opinion there should be no Human Rights legislation because it's too difficult to define (try thinking of every conceivable way a person could be slighted), and concerns an individuals state of mind based on their own experiences and prejudices. The concept should remain, but instead of promoting victimization, it should promote individual responsibility.

[Danko]

[ILWL]