Drink Drivers

[Curvey_Brunette]

Yeah right Adam, whatever you say huns.

I believe every word of it.

[Curvey_Brunette]

And as for sexually fustrated ..trust me i would rather do my dog than you lol....

Gut feeling?.......your name is really Bertha and you live in a run down council estate in Barnsley, The only car you have is a 1980 Escort mark 2 with alloys that you got from a market stall in Bradford. You have a dog that is of questionable parentage.

Your hubby drinks Johns Smiths in the Dog and Duck and usually knocks back eight pints a night cos its the only way he can bare looking at you and you have two kids, one on remand and the other left home at 16 cos he was fed up living in squalor with a mum that talks like a docker.

For Christmas you bought ya hubby a plastic pack containing Lynx deoderant and talc and he bought you a lucky dip lottery ticket.

You have a sister 10 times smarter than you ( not difficult that one ) and you hate her cos she has made a few quid and married a guy with a brain. You hate her more cos she got the hell out of Yorkshire even though it meant she would never see the £500 she lent you to bail ya son out last time he was caught shop lifting.

As regards a sex life you do manage sex but usually its a job that requires a lot of huffing and puffing as you have to reach down over your fat body to pleasure yourself - the last time you actually saw ya pussy was through a mirror after getting your hubby to lift ya rolls of fat....he spent three weeks in Barnsley General after that cos it put his back out.

You do however like to appear to others to be doing well in life so you have lots of tropical shores brochures hanging around the house...Once a year you bugger off to Scarborough and apply lots of fake tan....You find it a pain in the butt looking through car boot sales there looking for items that look like they might come from the West Indies, but needs must so eventually you find the tack you need to show off when you get back.

I do not claim to be anything I am not Curvey ( is that not another word for Obese? )

I have had to struggle to get what I have but I dont owe a cent to a bank in Australia or England, I do not have any Credit card bills and the only debt I have is a mortgage here which, if I went back to Aussie would be wiped out and leave me with a nice fat lump to take home should I ever sell up. The retail franchise I own in Adelaide is based in a unit I worked seven days a week to pay for over several years and the business has been in profit for the last five years. I could if I wanted, take a chance and invest in another outlet if I wished but I dont need too - Im content and have enough free time to enjoy it.

Plus I have the choice of enjoying summer twice a year if I want it thanks to my dual nationality

Trust me....You have nothing that I would want or desire

This is all very good for someone who's admitted to sitting in front of a computer on a night jerking off.

Now here's the reality about me:

I'm very happily married to a real man you couldn't even compare to who doesn't need to sit in front of a computer chatting up desperate women willing to indulge strangers in sex talk on a computer for attention because they're so insecure and hideous no real man would go anywhere near them.

Did you lie when you told me your 'partner' works nights and your car won't start? Look at you, you haven't even got the guts to get married and make a commitment to your 'partner' but then again if I was living with a hooker who's out all night making a living on her back I wouldn't want to marry it either.

Is this the sign of a successful person? Someone who's car won't start and who's partner works night? Not likely! Neither my husband or I work, we don't have to because of the income we've got together.

We're worth millions and our lifestyle is supported by plebs like you willing to pay £25 a month for access to our porn sites so they can jerk off.

As for the Escort, it's a 1996 that we bought new and it's a dammed good runner, it starts on the first turn of the key every time because it's well maintained.

We don't have to park outside on the street, we have a garage for the Jags, the Aston's, the Ferrari's, The Shogun and the Range Rover that does 12 miles to the gallon and the Rovers. And not the little ones either, the big ones like the 825 and the 827 with enough power to do 105mph in 2nd gear.

Our house is our own with no mortgage and no loans against it.

You really shouldn't try bullshitting about the 'tidy profit' you'll make because if you knew anything you'd be aware of this thing called capital gains tax that would take at least 40% of your profit.

We're also one of the biggest landlords in North Yorkshire with a housing stock of more than 300 houses and you know what? We make a killing on cases like you, cases where the housing benefit pay the rent directly to us so it's guaranteed money in the bank.

So you dream all you want, make any accusation you want, it doesn't bother me because I know what the truth actually is.

You're aimed this personal attack, (how odd you're so willing to try that tactic after being so "upset" by what you saw as a personal attack from me), because you can't cope with the reality of the situation as it is.

You want to pretend to be loaded? Think of a better car to have than a Rover 414i that only starts when it feels like it. A piece of scrap so badly maintained you can't rely on it, you have no confidence in it.

You're angry and resentful of me because I have a choice of what car I want to drive, I don't have to go out to any of my cars and hope they'll start. No matter what the weather, I know all of our cars will start without problem because we can afford to get them dealer serviced. Whatever needs doing to them gets done, the cost is a minuscule drop in the ocean of our bank accounts.

When I walk into the bank I go to the managers office, I'm offered tea, coffee and biscuits, my husband is offered cigars and they grovelling little b***** is so far up my arse I can feel him at the back of my throat. We're not made to queue up like the rest of the plebs.

And as for you coming anywhere near me, what planet are you on?

Why do you assume I'd want someone with a criminal heritage, someone who was born in a country that was originally a penal colony anywhere near me?

You call me arrogant and yet you assume I'd want to sexually attract you, you assume I have something you want. What's that if it's not arrogance sweetheart?

Trust me on this, you wouldn't stand a chance with someone like me if you were the last male on the planet so don't go assuming I'd want to go anywhere near you, just the thought of being in the same warehouse and breathing the same air as someone like you turns my stomach.

Now crawl back under your rock and get a grip before you have a psychotic episode.

[the riddler]

This thread's fantastic entertainment....

[Curvey_Brunette]

:shock:
This thread's fantastic entertainment....

I have to admit I'm having fun too

[AussieAdam]

You are a fruitcake lol.......and as already been said many times you have issues about everything...If you dont agree with the law then go stand as an MP and do something about it.

As for me being a crim and coming from a penal colony lol.....
If you read my reply you dope....I have dual nationality..My roots are English..........Also if you knew anything about history then you would know that South Australia was never a penal colony it was a city that was founded by German and English migrants.

Plus this so called penal colony just happens to be the number one destination for poms leaving the Uk and is regarded as one of the most desireable places to live in the world.

I dont believe anything you said because if even half of it was true then you would not be spending so much time on a pc or living in such a crap hole as Yorkshire

And is not Yorkshire supposed to be the birthplca of English cricket.......your pretty crap at that too arnt ya lol ....

Anyway by pandering to you this thread has died. You talked a load of bollox about driving and insurance etc...even when faced with the law and the truth you just kicked off and threw a wobbler...

Jeesh you really are a nutter

[Curvey_Brunette]

You are a fruitcake lol.......and as already been said many times you have issues about everything...If you dont agree with the law then go stand as an MP and do something about it.

So it's normal behaviour for you to start attacking people just because they don't agree with your point of view is it? I see, no wonder Oz kicked you out

As for me being a crim and coming from a penal colony lol.....
If you read my reply you dope....I have dual nationality..My roots are English..........Also if you knew anything about history then you would know that South Australia was never a penal colony it was a city that was founded by German and English migrants.

Tsk tsk, oh dear

Plus this so called penal colony just happens to be the number one destination for poms leaving the Uk and is regarded as one of the most desireable places to live in the world.

I wouldn't live there. I like the safety and security of where I am.

I dont believe anything you said because if even half of it was true then you would not be spending so much time on a pc or living in such a crap hole as Yorkshire

Ahhhh arrogance again, just don't believe what I say doesn't make it untrue. It means you're unwilling to accept what it fact.

As for yourself, what about your own lies? You told me you sit and jerk off for women you meet on the Internet and I got the feeling you would "go off" me when I made it clear that wouldn't happen with me. I'm not into cyber sex because I married a real man who can satisfy me.

As for spending time on my PC, we run PORN SITES Adam, pages have to be added all the time, new files, new pics, new vids so it's perfectly reasonable for me to spend a lot of time sat at a PC, these things don't upload themselves you know.

It's not some magical process were new material suddenly appears, pages have to be made, links have to be made, the files have to be uploaded, it's a very involved process.

You can have a go at Yorkshire as much as you want, if you decide to move here go to South Yorkshire, that's where all the losers and misfits live. Stay out of North Yorkshire, I feel it's way too posh for the likes of you

And is not Yorkshire supposed to be the birthplca of English cricket.......your pretty crap at that too arnt ya lol ....

Wow! Is that supposed to hurt or something?

I couldn't give a toss about cricket or any sport to be honest.

Anyway by pandering to you this thread has died. You talked a load of bollox about driving and insurance etc...even when faced with the law and the truth you just kicked off and threw wobbler...

Now you're sounding like Mog, hmmmmm how odd that I mentioned Mog had wandered off that might we had a little chat and suddenly it's back within a few hours of not posting after days.

All this started because you simply can't accept the fact the law and the system is such a mess it's easy to evade.

It's a fact that DVLA has over a 3rd of its database messed up. People are issued with full driving licences when they apply for provisional. Entitlements are missed off renewed licences and this is the loophole I'm exploiting. I know I have been through a driving test and that's good enough for me to continue driving.

I've already tested the waters on this when my insurance screwed up and cancelled on me 2 days after issuing me a certificate of insurance. The fact is that standard points for no insurance is 6 points, I got 3 because of the mess they'd made.

As for the licence offence, I was found not guilty because they couldn't decide what type of licence I had. The one I held in my hand said FULL but their records said I didn't even a hold a licence.

THEY created the reasonable doubt and that's how the law in the UK works, if there is a reasonable doubt they can't convict and if they can't convict they have no powers to make any orders.

This is what you're failing to grasp and I can see you're very frustrated by this hence your rather immature temper tantrum. I can only assume this is normal behaviour for you which is probably why you're so willing to trawl the Internet and sit in front of a computer jerking off instead of getting out there, finding someone and having a positive relationship with someone meaningful to you.

Jeesh you really are a nutter

I don't know what makes you so stupid Adam, but I have to say it really does work a treat.

I'm sat here with a lovely smile on my face because I'm pushing your buttons rather nicely and you're dancing like a little puppet to my tune. You really should get some counselling and try to discover why you are the way you are.

I mean what was it? Some sort of childhood trauma? Or just a general hatred of women who won't allow you to use them for your own needs and seedy gratification?

Perhaps you have feelings of abandonment because your mother left you on some kids home doorstep?

I know I'll never get to the bottom of it, but you really need to so you can become a stable and well adjusted person instead of the immature and misogynistic asshole you present yourself to be.

I'm convinced that if this was a face to face argument you'd lash out and hit me because I'm a woman. I honestly do think you are a danger to women and should never be left alone with one under any circumstances.

[animallover15]

So it's normal behaviour for you to start attacking people just because they don't agree with your point of view is it? I see, no wonder Oz kicked you out

Point of view??? More like point of law!!!

Did you not read that he said he has dual citizenship? Nope, probably not!! You just seem to like to assume. And as for insults, you haven't been backwards in coming forwards with your own!!

You and your husband sound like a right pair of class acts.
Running porn sites suits you to a t!!!

[Curvey_Brunette]

So it's normal behaviour for you to start attacking people just because they don't agree with your point of view is it? I see, no wonder Oz kicked you out

Point of view??? More like point of law!!!

And the laws are wrong because of the database it relies on!

That's what I'm getting at!

If the information is wrong and it's know to be wrong then there are loopholes so the point of a law that says you can't do something is wrong if it can't be enforced!

How can the courts say "You are a provisional licence holder" when the database for that information is a 3rd wrong? That 3rd creates reasonable doubt and so a conviction can't be made.

I was nicked for no insurance because even though it wasn't a deliberate act as in I knowingly drove without insurance the fact remains I had no insurance cover when I was stopped even though I thought I had.

I had good mitigation which is why I only got 3 points and not the standard 6.

But that doesn't excuse the fact I wasn't insured at the time of driving. The point I'm making about the licence is that because the database is such a mess even if you are a provisional licence holder you can scream blue murder you've been through a test and the court is powerless to prove otherwise.

There's also the dual standards applied, by rights I should of had my car lifted at the time of the offence, but because I thought I was insured, because my certificate of insurance was only 3 weeks old I was allowed to keep my car and I was allowed to have my husband drive it home on his insurance.

There was a clamp down on morons without insurance who were driving knowing they weren't insured who had their cars taken from them and crushed. One of them was a pensioner driving an old Fiesta who was in tears he was having his car taken from him.

I shouldn't have been treat any differently to anyone else and this is what pisses me off. Yes I'd made a valid and obvious mistake, I didn't fit the pattern and so I was cut some slack because of that.

I'm sure others have also been cut some slack because of similar circumstances but that doesn't make it right does it? If you have no insurance you have no insurance and so should be dealt with as anyone is dealt with. There shouldn't be exception.

When I was in court, a man with a right leg and a left arm had been mistakenly issued with a full licence by DVLA which he had in his hand. DVLA had no record of him ever having applied for a licence! Yet he had in his hand a photo ID licence which was found to be valid.

This is why I'm saying the licencing system is useless. I can see the need to be tested but a driving test proves nothing.

How many full licence holders get drunk and climb behind the wheel? How many full licence holders run red lights? How many full licence holders shoot through railway crossings and ignore red lights? How many full licence holders speed? How many full licence holders are involved in accidents when turning right into oncoming traffic?

If the licencing database was 99.97% accurate as DVLA claims it to be, (which is not true), then why isn't it a part of the ANPR system? Why do the police have to ring up DVLA and fax them for driving licence details?

The answer is because it's not reliable and so this makes a joke out of having a driving licence or passing a driving test.

Ask any driving instructor, read up on the Motorcycle news website about the licencing problems, Watchdog ran a story on this on the 6th September 2005 about full licence holders who had entitlement missed off their licence, in some cases it's bike entitlement missed off, in others it's more important entitlements such as HGV entitlement.

Because of my own situation I've gone to great lengths to make sure I am 100% insured, my insurance company is fully aware of the situation and they have said it's a familiar story to them which is why no insurance company will issue a certificate of insurance and then say "Sorry you're not insured because you're not accompanied or displaying 'L' plates"

The only time they can do that is when the person asking for insurance has lied to them, that voids the insurance because you're making a legal statement when you take out insurance. If you say "I'm a learner driver" and you want insurance, yes they'll charge a higher rate but they can't take your money then change their mind.

They can cancel your insurance, but they have to inform you of this by registered letter and give at least 2 weeks notice of cancellation.

The whole system is a complete mess and this is what I'm getting at.

Running porn sites suits you to a t!!!

Yeah it does, it pays the bills and lets us do the things we want to do. And it's not really hard work either, we don't even have to go out of our way to advertise, the search engines do it for us. The only overheads are the licences, the web space and the content.

The main site we deal with and look after, the other 250+ sites we have are rented out to people who make a dammed good living out of them. Sex sells, it always has and always will but most aren't willing to put 15 years into building up a web based business as we have, they want it all and they want it now without any time or effort.

[mogadishu]

Adam and Curvey are made for each other.

[DemonLover]

I'm coming into this late I know but I can't resist putting my two pence in!

On the subject of drink-driving (where this all began) I agree with Adam, their car should be crushed, and they should have to re-take thier test. But that should apply to anyone who flaunts the law at all. Driving laws in this country are so ridiculous! I read an article in the paper maybe 4/5 days ago:

This lad (he was about 18 if memory serves) had NO LICENCE, took his dad's car WITHOUT PERMISSION and ended up ploughing into another young guy who was about 21, waiting AT A BUS STOP, killing him! He got off with COMMUNITY SERVICE because apparantly there was no evidence that he DRIVING DANGEROUSLY!!!!! How insane is that? This guy has taken a life and he gets a slap on the wrist!! Surely it's got to be counted as dangerous driving if someone's driving with no licence.

I've said it for years - if you wanna kill someone, hit 'em with your car!!

[Curvey_Brunette]

This lad (he was about 18 if memory serves) had NO LICENCE, took his dad's car WITHOUT PERMISSION and ended up ploughing into another young guy who was about 21, waiting AT A BUS STOP, killing him! He got off with COMMUNITY SERVICE because apparantly there was no evidence that he DRIVING DANGEROUSLY!!!!! How insane is that?

How insane is it to have a theory test where out of 35 multiple choice questions you only need to get 30 of them right!

How insane is it to have another human being who might of had a bad night the previous night, or who might of had a good night the previous night judge if you're a safe driver or not?

How insane is it that out of the thousands killed every year on the roads, most die at the hands of a fully licensed, taxed, MOT'ed and insured driver who isn't involved in a police chase at the time of the crash?

How insane is it to go out and buy a car that's capable of more than twice the national speed limit?

How insane is it to turn right without looking, looking again and yet looking again for something coming?

How insane is it to drive at 60+ mph in a school zone or a 30/40 mph limit?

If you want to talk about insanity then try addressing the outrageous and incredibly selfish behavior of many full license holders who are disqualified in the courts every single day for all of the above and so much more.

I look at it this way, those who haven't passed a test or haven't got insurance are most likely safer drivers because if they do something wrong the consequences will be much greater for them than it would be a full license holder.

In the case of a death, it's likely the full license holder will get a fine, points and that's about it, a provisional license holder may get the same and a bit of community service, but there is no distinction between the points and fine amounts for provisional or full license holders committing the same motoring offense.

Despite Adam's silly comments about insurance, if you have been honest with the insurance company and they accept you for a policy to drive then you are insured to drive accompanied or not unless specific limitations are placed on the policy voiding the insurance should they be breached.

I know this because I picked up the phone and got several quotes from several insurance companies who all agreed to insure my 18 year old, provisional license holder Nephew for one of our cars without any stipulations or restrictions. That was a policy in his own name for a car he "owned"

Try it yourself, getting valid insurance for a provisional license holder is easy, a phone call will do it.

Our driving test is wrong, it doesn't teach you to drive safely, it doesn't teach you the right attitude to have, it doesn't teach you to drive. It's simply another money making scam that gives powers to nothing more than a police state.

[mogadishu]

Edited.... what's the point?

[Curvey_Brunette]

You know mogadishu, you might look a bit brighter if you didn't copy and paste so much but actually had an opinion to express.

[AussieAdam]

This silly cow still believes its within the law for a provisional driver to drive unnacompannied. I have even quoted the law for her ( see previous posts )

This woman would argue about two sides of a candy bar.. If she makes a pont she ignores laws and facts and think shes above the law.
So Demon ( and I really thought mogs had worked this out by now ) There really is no point at all making any comments on any post she makes.

This woman has far too much time on her hands and does even less with it except post on here.

I couldnt believe this thyread was STILL running lol - Fk Ive been back to Aussie, exchanged contracts on a business and had two weeks in the Far East .....and the silly woman is still spouting crap hahahahahahaha

Mogs .....me and curvey made for each other......Do me a favour I already have a dog I dont need another

[Curvey_Brunette]

This silly cow still believes its within the law for a provisional driver to drive unnacompannied. I have even quoted the law for her ( see previous posts )

Ahhhh Adam, you're still alive and willing to abuse women I see How sweet.

This woman would argue about two sides of a candy bar.. If she makes a pont she ignores laws and facts and think shes above the law.

Ermm no Adam, you're the one ignoring the facts. The fact of the matter is that full licence holders find themselves in court more often, have more points on their license and get disqualified more than provisional licence holders ever will.

You're also ignoring the fact that DVLA issue WRONG license types to people all the time which is the reason why the ANPR system isn't linked to the driving license database.

If you get stopped by an ANPR equiped car, like the post office when you go to tax your vehicle, they know when the vehicles MOT was issued and which garage issued it via the VOSA system. They know who your insurance company is via the MIB website and from the DVLA system itself, they get road tax details.

Now, with all of that ask yourself WHY the license database isn't linked? Could it be because the database itself is a 3rd wrong???

So Demon ( and I really thought mogs had worked this out by now ) There really is no point at all making any comments on any post she makes.

Unless it's a snide one eh Adam?

I think you need to get laid more huns, you're sooooooo aggressive and so full of angst it's worrying. If you don't get some help soon you'll end up getting a good hiding by trying to take your worthless and pitiful existence on other people.

This woman has far too much time on her hands and does even less with it except post on here.

Geee ya thinks Adam?

Ohhh! Where have I been most of this year then sweetheart?

I see you've been posting away on here like there's no tomorrow so which one of us is it that has time on their hands?

Would it be the person posting day after day after day after day or the person who posts when A) A reply notifacation is received & B) Only posts in furries but doesn't post most of the time?

Drag me down as much as you want honey, but at the end of the day all you're doing is damage to yourself. You don't listen, you can't debate anything, when some isn't compliant and subserviant to you or dare to disagree or offer a different point of view you then become agressive and abusive towards them.

I had a feeling you'd go this way after I told you having a W*** at my expense wouldn't ever be on the cards. Any woman who'll lower herself to those levels is bad enough, anyone who'll indulge you must be a right skank no other person on the planet would ever want.

Oh they must be hideous to look at, still it's all you can get isn't it Adam? You enjoy your W*** play and your desperate women, (though I suspect you're here so much because they're so thin on the ground), and get some therapy please, you really do need it.

I couldnt believe this thyread was STILL running lol - Fk Ive been back to Aussie, exchanged contracts on a business and had two weeks in the Far East .....and the silly woman is still spouting crap hahahahahahaha

Awww what a dreamer you are. If you had the money and assets you claim you wouldn't be driving a badly put together Honda that only starts when it feels like it. That is of course if you have a car. When I asked you about it you knew nothing about it.

Perhaps that's what's made you so sore? The fact a woman wouldn't be stuck at the roadside if her car broke down because she knows about the car and how to fix it?

I think that makes you feel very insecure.

Mogs .....me and curvey made for each other......Do me a favour I already have a dog I dont need another

You speak from a point of view that I at all find you attractive or that I'd even consider going anywhere near you.

I know it's just your dysfunctional coping mechanism in trying to turn it around and make it so you rejected me, that's OK, psychiatric cases like you often do that. But please get a grip on reality, I wouldn't go near you if you had the cash to quadruple my current portfolio.

Trust me on this sweetheart, there aren't enough drugs, there isn't enough money or alcohol to get me within 10 miles of you. I married real man you see so you by comparison wouldn't even come close to being a piss weak imitation of a real man.

Please, get some anger management therapy.