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by SarahGirl on Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:04 am
AussieAdam wrote:I once advocated and supported a Zero alcohol limited for drivers. Then I realised that there are so many products that contain traces of alcohol
(Im sure Off Duty Nurse will back that ) that so many people would be busted unfairly.
I understand its more diffuclt than that, some people create trace amounts of alchohol in their breath or so I have been told.
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Having said that then I agree we must toughen up - A three year jail sentence for a first DD offence should be the rule (That way the bugga serves a minimum of 12 months) tied in with an alcohol awareness course. The car should be seized and sold to recoup some of the court costs or perhaps the money could go to AA as they dont seem to be government funded.
We are going to need to build some pretty large extra jais then AA - at least in the UK - and there is the problem that people who have served a jail sentence find it very difficult to find employment afterwards - we might not care much for them, but I, for one, do not want to ctreate an even larger 'underclass' of peolple who contribute little or nothing (except trouble) to scoiety - I fear that would be the result of this suggestion.
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If a driver kills or injures someone as a result of their drink driving then we should put this in the category of murder/manslaughter or attempted murder and convict accordingley.
The convicted DD should have to take a fresh driving test.
If the driver is convicted of DD again within five years of release from prison then a five year sentence should be imposed along with a 10 year driving ban and an extended driving test to follow.
I can't see that you can equate killing someone as a result of drink driving with murder, as the law currently defines it (although perhaps with second degree murder under the preposed changes) but certainly I think this should be dealt with as manslaughter.
Taking and selling the car seems reasonable, although many of the offenders will be young people with cheap cars or business-people with company cars. (Mentioning company cars, why is the law more lenient with people who need cars for business purposes, shouldn't they be more careful?)
Fresh test - for certain
10 years for a second DD offense - unrealistic in comparison to other offences.
A ten year ban - I think the result will be even more dangereous people driving while banned, and so driving without insurance, as well.
quote="AussieAdam"] The annoying thing is that there are so many cases of people being stopped for DD who are found to have been already banned already and shouldnt even be on the road. That means they do not have insurance either. - There are some people that just do not care enough and are happy to take the risk of being caught - These are the people that we need to really jump on.
I do feel for those that drive late the following morning after a night out, believing that the alcohol has dissapaited enough for them to be below the limit. They get stopped, they are fractionally over the limit and end up with a ban and a fine and sometimes the loss of a job.
Para 1 - yes these people are a major problem, they have no conscience and no shame and unless we lock them up for life they
are going to drive - we need more checks of licences to catch as many of them as we can.
para2 - I don't feel any more sorry for these people than I do for people who get caught
just over the limit - they are dangerous and they need to be stopped.
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Truth is though over the next few weeks there are going to be kids lying on mortuary slabs, wifes/husbands/boyfriends/girlfriends that wake up the morning after without the one they love.
The press is going to tell the stories of the hit and run driver caught three days later who has mown into a group of people, killing and maiming.
There are also going to be the drivers who end up wrapping their cars round a tree or into a wall, killing themselves and causing their friends and family so much heart ache......
And all because of a couple of beers or a bottle of wine.......and because we do not have sentences that are so punitive they make the thought of drink driving never enter a drivers head.
I imagine that, were cars invented today, they would be banned from use - far too dangerous to put into the hands of a poorly trained amateur. many drivers are leathal, even sober. We pay a high price for convenience![/b]